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Subject: TopBand: Receiver Test Data
From: k6se@juno.com (Earl W Cunningham)
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 23:13:42 EST
I e-mailed Rob Sherwood regarding his test data of various receivers.  I
thought his reply might interest you Topbanders.

73, de Earl, K6SE

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 Hi, Rob,

 I ran across the table of receiver test data you posted on your Web
site.  Very interesting data, but I notice none of the more modern
receivers are included, i.e., FT-1000MP, TS-870, IC-775DSP, IC-756, and
others.

Q.  I wonder if you plan to test any of the newer rigs and publish the 
results?

A.  Not too likely.  I am too busy being a computer consultant.  I cannot
keep up with the work.

Q  I'm now using my old TS-830S (with 250/270Hz filters in both IFs),
which does a decent job during crowded CW contest condx.  The 830 you
rate #4 on your list indicates that a YK88 filter was used -- I wonder
which one (500 or 250Hz)?

A.  500 Hz filter.

Q.  I'm considering upgrading to one of the newer DSP rigs, which is why
I'm  curious about their performance as a receiver.

A.  I really don't know what to recommend.  The problem with DSP is when 
it get overloaded, it does not go down gracefully.  When I tested the WJ
HF-1000, I felt it was harsh sounding, and if the DSP was pushed like it
would be in a CW pile up on 160 meters, then it put out  nothing but
trash.  You really need to have a filter earlier than the DSP that can
protect it from a swath 10 to 20 kHz wide full of S9 +40 signals.  That
is a lot to ask.  So while I like the infinite variable  bandwidth a DSP
can offer, there is a trade off.

I own an Icom 781, and it does well, but is pre DSP days.  JRC is
bringing out a new DSP 545 receiver, but have not seen it yet.  All up
conversion rigs have some level of first IF "window" overload problems
when in a CW pile up.  That is why the C-Line did so well with a 600 Hz
first IF filter and a 500, 250, or 125 second IF filter.  The first got
rid of 90% of the crud, and the second just had a limited job to do.

First IF filter protected second mixer - not possible with up conversion
rigs, or DSPs.  Big problem, but no good answers.

73, Rob, NC0B

--------- End forwarded message ----------


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