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Subject: TopBand: NL7Z echo land
From: nl7z@Alaska.NET (Kevin G. Forster)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:44:17 -0900
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Gentlemen,=20
                    I would hope this echo incident doesn't turn into a =
"elevated Vs. ground" mounted radials thing. I am not a physicist,
or the like, nor do I claim to be. I have heard echoes on 160 many time =
before - as well as some of you reading this. I don't claim that this =
was a LP condition - but I do wonder if the signal followed the =
terminator to the west of me and then up along S.America to the east =
coast. The reason I wonder this is that it is not uncommon at all for us =
in Alaska to work either through or along the auroral zone to the east =
coast. This condition is why we don't hear/work W1's very often, as well =
as 2's and 3's to some extent - s I don't see any thing out of the =
ordinary with the auoral oval at the time we had echoes. There have been =
times on 160 when I could say my call on ssb and upon unkeying hear my =
ENTIRE call come back to me - uncanny. And there have been times that =
signals sounded "full" from a slight echo - however this echo was much =
different. I have never heard anything this severe on 160 - this was =
worse than when 40 does that. These echoes were so bad that I had real =
trouble getting W8JI's call - yet he was 589 on peaks and my noise floor =
was literally S-0.

It is also very strange that K1ZM had to point s/se to work me - I did =
try a low angle vert. and also a the inv.. vee which is also low (96') =
The signals were all louder on the VEE - but that is usually the case =
from here to the East Coast.
   =20
So in summation, I don't see anything unusual in the aurora between here =
and east coast that night - but tell that to my ears!

                                            I will try to get up and do =
more east coast sunrise this week starting about 10:30z , so maybe it =
will occur again and we will have more data to sift over .          =20

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                                   Thanks      Kevin  NL7Z

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Gentlemen, </FONT></DIV>
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I would hope this echo incident doesn't turn into a &quot;elevated Vs.=20
ground&quot; mounted radials thing. I am not a physicist,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>or the like, nor do I claim to be. I =
have heard=20
echoes on 160 many time before - as well as some of you reading this. I =
don't=20
claim that this was a LP condition - but I do wonder if the signal =
followed the=20
terminator to the west of me and then up along S.America to the east =
coast. The=20
reason I wonder this is that it is not uncommon at all for us in Alaska =
to work=20
either through or along the auroral zone to the east coast. This =
condition is=20
why we don't hear/work W1's very often, as well as 2's and 3's to some =
extent -=20
s I don't see any thing out of the ordinary with the auoral oval at the =
time we=20
had echoes. There have been times on 160 when I could say my call on ssb =
and=20
upon unkeying hear my ENTIRE call come back to me - uncanny. And there =
have been=20
times that signals sounded &quot;full&quot; from a slight echo - however =
this=20
echo was much different. I have never heard anything this severe on 160 =
- this=20
was worse than when 40 does that. These echoes were so bad that I had =
real=20
trouble getting W8JI's call - yet he was 589 on peaks and my noise floor =
was=20
literally S-0.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>It is also very strange that K1ZM =
had to point=20
s/se to work me - I did try a low angle <FONT color=3D#000000>vert. =
</FONT>and=20
also a the inv.. vee which is also low (96') The signals were all louder =
on the=20
VEE - but that is usually the case from here to the East =
Coast.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>So in summation, I don't see =
anything unusual in=20
the aurora between here and east coast that night - but tell that to my=20
ears!</FONT></DIV>
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I will try to get up and do more east coast sunrise this week starting =
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10:30z , so maybe it will occur again and we will have more data to sift =
over=20
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