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Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query...

To: w8ji@contesting.com, ford@cmgate.com, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query...
From: "CHARLES HUTTON" <charlesh3@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:10:22 +0000
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This is often not true, but depends on the particular cases.

Any tilting of the wavefront induces voltage in a Beverage, regardless of whether the tilt is caused by the incoming wavefront being received at an angle due to ionospheric reflection or whether ground losses cause the tilt.

Your elevation arrival angle might be anywhere from a few degrees to dozens of degrees. The wave tilt (using either Zenneck's formula or Litva and Rook) depends greatly on the soil type at 1.8 mHz. Examples:

conductivity = .001, dielectric constant = 3 (fertile "average") tilt = 18 degrees
conductivity = .002, dielectric constant = 10 (dry, sandy) tilt = 12 degrees
conductivity = .01, dielectric constant = 30 (moist) tilt = 5.5 degrees


I'd say that given "average" elevation angles for DX, you should treat both arrival elevation angle and tilt from ground loss as being roughly equal factors.


Chuck



From: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Reply-To: Tom Rauch <w8ji@contesting.com>
To: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query...
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:51:35 -0400

Hi Ford,

CLIP

Second, if it did work to crate a low resistance path the
effect would only be to make the antenna stop working.
Beverages depend on ground losses to function.

CLIP

73 Tom



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