... However, the slightest loss really extends the bandwidth and I 
suspect this is > what many find.... 
 
     Dave WX7G
  Yep, the universal bugger on 160. So much so that any sign of new 
"bandwidth" generates a paranoid scurrying about to discover what's 
gone wrong. 
 
Stated another way, particularly for 160, bandwidth implies loss until 
loss has been carefully ruled out. 
 
73, Guy 
 
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