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Re: Topband: V160HD Titanex

To: "Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>, "Joe Wilkowski" <k8fc@k8fc.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: V160HD Titanex
From: "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@centurytel.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 08:44:27 -0500
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Rick--
There may be a communication problem in the specs about strength here. For 
the Titanium alloy, you say "Ultimate strength" but for the Aluminum, you 
don't say whether it is Ultimate or yield, and there is a BIG difference.
For stress calculation, Yield is more pertinent, and is usually the 
reference. This is the load where "permanent Set" is reached.
Do you know which was used in the Aluminum comparison?
Bill--W4BSG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
To: "Joe Wilkowski" <k8fc@k8fc.com>
Cc: <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: V160HD Titanex


> Somebody correct me if I am mistaken, but the Titanex antennas
> are mainly a collection of pieces of tubing.  It would be easy
> to reverse engineer the dimensions.  I see that Titanium tubing
> is available here:
>
> http://www.titaniumsports.com/TITANIUM%20TUBING%20PRICE%20LIST.pdf
>
> Yes, of course, it is expensive.
>
> Does anyone know the alloy that Titanex uses?
>
> Apparently, high end bicycles are built with 3% aluminum 2.5% vanadium
> alloy.  The tubes I mentioned above have 120 ksi ultimate tensile
> strength.  OTOH, 7075 aluminum is 83 ksi and even 6061-T6 is 45 ksi.
> Considering that titanium is 50% heavier than aluminum, I don't
> see where the strength to weight ratio is better for titanium vs 7075.
> It would be a win against 6061-T6.
>
> Comments?
>
> Rick N6RK
>
> Joe Wilkowski wrote:
>> Folks, this past winter my V160S was destroyed by the winds in Colorado. 
>> I have been trying in vain to replace this antenna with a Titanex V160HD 
>> and nothing has worked.  The manufacturer, Titanex, was extremely slow in 
>> responding to repeated requests about the availability and shipping to 
>> the US.  Finally they got back to me and said that they were having 
>> "trouble" with their export license and could not export to the US.  I 
>> then tried to go through another vendor in Europe who indicated that IF 
>> they could get the product from Titanex they could export.  Investigating 
>> further I found out that it could not be sent via a container in an Ocean 
>> going vessel without special handling.  Lastly, the cost to have it flown 
>> to the US was virtually the same or more than the cost of the antenna in 
>> the first place.
>>
>> I am now wondering how in the world all the US hams who own a Titanex 
>> V160 HD ever got the thing in the first place.
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that owns a V160HD and wants to part with it ? 
>> I really do want to put up the same antenna or even another V160S.  Or is 
>> there a special secret to getting these things over here from Europe ?
>>
>> I must say this has been a frustrating experience at the very least.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe K8FC
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