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Re: Topband: Musings of a DX-Window Intruder

To: herbs@vitelcom.net
Subject: Re: Topband: Musings of a DX-Window Intruder
From: Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:41:42 -0500
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I have to vote with Herb.

Further there will always be disadvantages to those without monster
stations.  There will always be advantages or disadvantages to various
locations on the planet.  One CANNOT create a level playing field for all
entrants.  That is why there are classes of operation, and awards and
certificates for those by country and even smaller divisions.

I note that even with the window CLEARLY discontinued in the rules, that
most avoided it.  I made my best score ever, using a run frequency away from
the window running 100 watts, and using an antenna designed for a small lot.
 I also managed to get down a RX antenna to hear better.  I did not win a
zone or country, but I got into the top ten.

The answers to better scores are more in the science of what we put up as
antennas, better RX and use of diversity, not in a flawed attempt at a level
playing field doomed to failure.

If I can do what I did with 100 watts, so can you.

73, Guy.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Herb Schoenbohm <herbs@vitelcom.net> wrote:

>
>
> We need to emphasis the DX-Window enforcement during a contest has a
> different impact on participants which vary depending on locations.
> Today's highly directional Beverages, modern equipment of high
> selectivity, as some posts have correctly empathized, have significantly
> reduced the importance of a  DX-Window.  Today, IMHO, it is a half
> century old anachronism that should probably be stored away with your
> Vibroplex and some old spare 807's.
>
> During the recent 160 meter DX contest  for me there was no need for a
> Window for Europeans at all as so many were stronger than NA stations
> who disappeared when I switched on the EU phased Beverages. The general
> rule is to find a place where one can get a good run going and hold on
> to it as long a possible.  My log shows nice European runs on 1818,
> 1812.5 as well as 1828.9Khz.  In my case the Europeans were calling me
> and not calling CQ.  So how does the use of one frequency over the
> others make any difference?
>
>  Actually, were I could have used a window was for west coast US
> stations who were not that strong and other NA stations would prevent a
> reasonable flow on contacts.  My point here is a DX window can never be
> fairly impossed on a geographic basis.  On interpretation of the rule
> would be that the "intercontinental" waiver rule would permit PJ2, PJ4
> and P4 all to sit in the window and work NA stations while I would be
> prohibited from the same thing.  Distance means nothing here since they
> are closer to much of the Midwest and western states than the U.S.
> Virgin Islands.  So how is this fair?  They already get 10 points or
> double what I get for every station in NA they work because it was
> determined they are geographically in South America despite the fact
> that until a few months ago they were politically and culturally an
> integral part of the Caribbean chain of countries. They all hear better
> than I, have better signals than I, and can work JA's simplex till the
> cows come home because they miss the Auroral barrier by a few degrees
> more than I but enough to make a big difference.
>
> My point here is that when you create strident rules like this, and
> don't take into account the vast geographic variances across the
> DXosphere you create a rule if enforced that does more harm than good in
> contests. So let me get this straight:  The DX-Window rule allows a
> Cyprus station to work all the close by European countries from the
> DX-Window but prohibits a nearby Crete station from doing the same
> thing.  Does this make any sense to anyone?
>
> For general DX-ing, outside of major contests, choice of frequencies are
> well publish or  announced, the transmit frequency of rarer DX stations
> are kept relatively clear and the commerce of DX contacts flows well.
> So  for most of the year the DX-Window thing is not even on the
> table...but when contest season rolls around it reemerges.  Now the
> concept of punishing Window "violators" is proposed.   Sure that will
> give some big gun contesters  a second thought but for others,
> especially if a needed state or intra-continental country had appeared,
> losing a few points in the contest would hardly be much of a deterrent.
>
> During the CQ 160 meter contest I failed to work North Dakota.  Had I
> heard one in the window finishing a contact with a  a European, and had
> I called him for the few seconds to perfect the WAS, I would have broken
> some rule which would cause a scoring computer to deduct points...."Come
> On Man" !  Is this really what you have in mind?
>
> The DX-Window, back when it was created for some east coast big guns  on
> behalf of  a few G stations (using 10 watts to a Joystick) to work a few
> East Coast regulars, has totally lost its importance today.  So in the
> words of Tony Soprano, "Fuggitaboutit"!
>
> 73,
>
> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
>
>
>
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