This being made is that anyone could improperly, illegally, whatever use
their own call...Ie a USA call from an Italy remote to work some rare
DX. It certainly can and it probably happens. Cheaters will cheat.
I don't compare my DXCC to anyone else. I have no clue how they did it
and don't care.
The integrity of the program is irrelevant. We are not selling our
awards to anyone. There is no pot of gold for working them all. The
integrity of the award is individual. I hope that the vast majority
have done it within the rules only you know if you cheated.
Mike W0MU
On 2/28/2015 6:32 PM, Michael Tope wrote:
Doug,
I don't think using remotes in different countries would be permitted
even under the most liberal interpretation of the new ARRL DXCC rules.
As far as I know, for example, using the RHR site in Sicily would
require me to sign IT9/W4EF. If I were to simply sign W4EF, I would
likely not be in compliance with Sicilian telecommunications law. If I
tried to submit a QSL made out to IT9/W4EF, for my US DXCC, it would
not count since clearly the contact was not made from a transmitter
located in the continental United States. Thus, to make use of a
remote in a different country to gain an advantage in the ARRL awards
program, requires more than an ethical breach. It requires breaking
the law since I would have to sign W4EF when using the IT9 remote to
pull it off. .
73 Mike W4EF...
On 2/27/2015 1:07 PM, Doug Renwick wrote:
-*** Let me help out here. I have gone on record in past postings
that I
personally do NOT have a problem with remote operations in the
vicinity of
their home station. The problem is people using remotes in different
countries and on different sides of the continent to inflate their
standings.
Doug
As to this specific thing; If someone is in another country close to
rare DX, visits a ham and uses their station and then uses their own
home call when making the easy Q, that's cheating. This kind of
cheating has been possible all along, it may make it easier with
today's technology.
I never worked Don Miller but I did work Romeo, both DXers were
notorious for supposedly claiming to be where they weren't & slews of
people worked them feeling they worked a legit operation. I worked
Romeo in 91 as XY0RR and got his QSL & it counted for DXCC. Once I
heard the flap about his operation, I didn't feel I fairly worked
Myanmar until I got confirmation from XZ1J for a Q in 2013.
People have been claiming DXCC credit unfairly and giving it for
years. RHR will not make anything new happen. I just sent something
offlist to one of us and I agree with what I said... "As to people
not doing the right thing with a tool, that's been happening since
those apes hit each other with femurs in the opening scene in the
movie 2001".
Or as the Who said in "We won't get fooled again: "Meet the new Boss,
same as the old Boss".
People have been cooking the books for years & someone always will
be; hasn't stopped me from having fun for 35+ years.
73,
Gary
KA1J
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