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Re: Topband: Fwd: ARRL Board meets next week - I'm looking for input

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Subject: Re: Topband: Fwd: ARRL Board meets next week - I'm looking for input
From: Herbert Schoenbohm <herbs@vitelcom.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:20:03 -0400
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Why should we be concerned where the operator of a remote station is actually located. The location of the actual station is all that really matters. Remote control of your station provides an amazing advance of our hobby. It provides an reliable escape to so many who are not able to construct antennas at their homes due to restrictions and restrictive covenants. Here in the Virgin Islands I have built and functional SO2R station (NP2P) which provides for the operator (N2TTA) to operate from his apartment in NYC. The ability to over come obstacles and have the interfaces that provide for automatic band switching of the Alpha 87A, rotor control, on screen monitoring of the amp(s), selection of direction RX Beverages for the low bands, antenna selection of seven different antennas such as quad, verticals and horizontal dipoles, all take our technology to a new level. The reliability by end to end fiber connectivity and the reduction of cost of most of the hardware cost at a more reasonable level.

Let's face it that remote control operation is here to stay and it applications are advancing everyday. Restricting such operations by imposing old archaic rules is moving in the wrong direction. Hopefully those that make the rules will not preclude such wonderful advances to amateur radio.

Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ

On 7/10/2015 9:11 PM, Greg Zenger wrote:
Bob and the others,

I understand (and even agree with, at least to an extent) many of the
arguments against remote operation. It seems like most of these arguments
are against remote stations that are rented, or remote stations that are
self owned but at a different location than the operators primary operating
location (Other side of country, lower noise QTH, etc.)

Do you have a problem with those of us who operate our own primary stations
remotely?  Sometimes I am sent out of the continental USA for business
trips, and I can be away for months at a time.  I'm likely to miss a good
DXpedition or two during that time away. By operating remotely, it gives me
something to do in the hotel room when the work for the day is complete,
and it drives me to build a more robust and reliable station, because I
dont have the luxury of making repairs until I return home.  It sure is
nice to have these 'remote' contacts that I make count towards my award.
Afterall, every contact applied toward my award was made from the same
antennas, connected to the same radios, in the same yard, regardless of
where I was when I touched the paddles or PTT.

Curious to hear your opinions on this particular angle.

73,
Greg N2GZ

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net> wrote:

Mike,

I also do not like the idea of remote station operation being acceptable
for DXCC.
(Charlie, you have one more year on me,   I was licensed in 1958 :-)
I have pursued the DXCC awards for all these years and now to allow remote
op to be granted
the same awards gives the DXCC awards almost zero value. Whether the
remote operation is
rented or self owned it makes no difference.  I'm sure a lot of us have
the same thinking on this
but haven't had the opportunity to express our feelings.  Actually I
believe the majority of ARRL DXers feel this
way.   I think the board needs to find a way to get input from the
majority !
Lastly,  One consideration for the board to look at is to have a separate
DXCC category for remote operation. Then
everyone is happy and there would be a level playing field for each
category, home station or remote.  (After all that is the
crux of the issue)


73,
Bob
K6UJ



On Jul 10, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Charles Cu nningham <
charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com> wrote:
Hi, Mike

Well, I've been licensed and a DXer since February 1957.  In my opinion
remote stations and operations should NOT be acceptable for DXCC.
Perhaps a
special NEW DXCC could be established for those operations Most of us
over
the decades have worked diligently so improve our stations and antennas
within the bounds available to us!  To have to compete with remote Super
Stations that are sited to provide significant advantages on certain DX
paths or bands REALLY spoils it for oo many of us, and establishes is as
a
"Sport for the Rich" like so many other things in our society!  I am
opposed
to offering conventional "DXCC" credit for remote operations!

73,
Charlie, K4OTV



-----Original Message-----
From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tony
K1AMF
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:10 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Fwd: ARRL Board meets next week - I'm looking for input

FYI, now's your chance to speak up if you haven't already.  Please e-mail
N2YBB or other ARRL board members directly with any questions or
comments.
Not looking to rehash things here on the reflector.

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From: ARRL Members Only Web site <memberlist@www.arrl.org>
Date: 07/09/2015  7:01 PM  (GMT-05:00)
To: k1amf@live.com
Subject: ARRL Board meets next week - I'm looking for input

Hello,

Next week, the Board of Directors will be holding their second meeting of
the year.  One of the topics up for discussion is the recent change in
DXCC
rules, particularly as to the use of remote operations for DXCC credit.

I would be interested in knowing what you, the ARRL member, feel about
the
rules for DXCC.  In particular, I would like to know what your opinion is
regarding crediting (for awards) DX contacts made by remote control
operations, be they through self owned or rented stations.

I would be also be interested in your experiences if you have operated
remotely in chasing DX for DXCC credit.

If you have any other items of interest, please also let me know.

Thank you.

73 de Mike N2YBB

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