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Re: Topband: 160m LP to LP DX contacts in 2015

To: Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: 160m LP to LP DX contacts in 2015
From: Tree <tree@kkn.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:26:09 -0800
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The matter of whether KP4KE is running QRP or not during contests is not
really the type of subject that this list was created for.

Thanks.

Management


On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Reversebeacon can shed some light on this today but data does not go back
> to 2005.
>
> I always chortle at the claims of power output that go to such high
> precision like "4.7 watts". Reminds me a lot of when Jim burned down
> Louie's apartment in the TV series Taxi, and Louie is trying to come up
> with a fake dollar number for damage claims:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QsFDpTEl84
>
> Tim N3QE
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Herb,
> >
> > Herb,
> >
> > In order for us to respond to your allegations you will need to provide
> > support evidence.  We will need details on his actual antenna
> > configuration, was he using a counterpoise of some sort,  is he on a
> hill,
> > how close is he to the water ?  Do you have proof that he was running
> more
> > than 5 watts ?
> > Comparing his results to your test is meaningless, there are too many
> > variables to consider.
> > You have the burden of proof.  Either provide factual evidence to support
> > your allegations or give
> > KP4KE an apology for potentially damaging his reputation.
> >
> > Bob
> > K6UJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/17/15 5:38 AM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote:
> >
> >> Well not to appear to be entirely disputatious we should carefully
> >> consider KP4KE CQ WW 160 meter QRP entry in 2005 which he said he
> >> accomplished with 4.7 watts to a "magical antenna" which he called a
> >> "double bazooka" at 60 feet both for RX and TX.  While claiming to work
> 42
> >> countries with this magical antenna (which is actually a low dipole) in
> a
> >> few hours of operating, I thought I would try and see what 5 watts could
> >> actually in fact really do on TB. Using a 1/4 wave vertical and 12
> >> Beverages a few weeks later, and many days after that when the band
> >> conditions where hot, I called CQ for 4 hours each night without a
> single
> >> reply.  During this contest I recall hearing NP4A and Pedro's great set
> up
> >> running full power, and very high dipole at 200' and the signals were
> >> always the same on 160 at my location. So either KP4KE has a "magic
> >> antenna" or his "QRP" entry in the CQ WW 160 meter QRP category totally
> >> lacked credulity.
> >>
> >> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2005     KP4KE     SO QRP 160M     37,345     364/13/42
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/17/2015 7:56 AM, Michel Spelier wrote:
> >>
> >>> The title was changed to better describe the original question.
> >>> This topband newcomer asked what had happened to the topband
> conditions,
> >>> given
> >>> the rare intercontinental Low Power to Low Power CW QSO’s,
> >>> even when riding upon sun propagation enhancements, as noted in this
> >>> log, during
> >>> the last 6 or 7 winter topband contests.
> >>> (the last 3 years = topband newcomer)
> >>>
> >>> (snip)
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Michel, ON7EH
> >>>
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