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Re: Topband: Post contest season: TX antenna vs RX antenna cros-stalk. W

To: "william radice" <k4owr@outlook.com>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Post contest season: TX antenna vs RX antenna cros-stalk. What do you do?
From: "Mark van Wijk, PA5MW" <pa5mw@home.nl>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:38:33 +0100
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Hi Bill,

I think this is not what I meant here; I also do use BPF's and the Front End Savers.

The problem is that while listening to your receiving antennas, there is also some signal from the transmit antenna getting through thanks to the internal cross-talk of your rig's TX/RX relay.

I was wondering what people do besides the obvious 'kill the TX antenna input during RX mode' ?

73 Mark, PA5MW



-----Original Message----- From: william radice
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:05 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Post contest season: TX antenna vs RX antenna cros-stalk. What do you do?

:::: Serious multi-op contest stations face this issue all the time.
Most use individual band filters and they almost completely eliminate
the issue.
At our station we used the Dunestar filters for operating positions on
different bands. As for 160 I personally use the KD9SV "front end saver"
and it does the job completely.
BILL K4OWR

On 3/22/2016 5:44 AM, Mark van Wijk wrote:
Now that we are 'sort of in post contest season mode' and sharing some good
ideas, there is another question:

During recent Field-day setups I noticed severe cross-talk issues between TX
antennas and the separate RX antenna circuits.
For sure any TX/R relay circuitry offers roughly 50-65 dB dampening. So, during a contest with >S9+30 signals received on the large TX antennas (Deltaloop for 40m and 80m) these would still show up S1 - S4 on the FD station's K3 RX input. At home I normally de-tune my backyard TX antenna(switch to GND during RX) to
avoid noise pickup at the RX antennas, so I never noticed this.


Question 1: how do you manage the TX-RX cross-talk at your setup?

- switch TX antenna to GND during RX
- switch-in en external attenuator, so the cross-talk is below noise level, but
you are still able to use the TX antenna during RX
- any other solution?


Question 2: is there any other basic circuitry or setup in a basic contest
station which offer possible similar negative side effects?



73, Mark PA5MW
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