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Re: Topband: 160 in daylight

Subject: Re: Topband: 160 in daylight
From: Art Roberts <>
Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 12:56:13 -0400
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Hi Gang,

While working at a beginner level on 160, I have dabbled with the band for many years. The subject of daylight operations brought to mind on interesting occurrence. After I returned from Vietnam, in 1969, I setup a basic station which included 160. There was a total lunar eclipse for the East coast during that time in '69. One of the test being run on 160 was if the propagation would change to night time conditions during the eclipse. Worked beautifully, as the sun went away, the band got better. From my QTH in Northern Connecticut, I was hearing Florida stations at the peak. Since I was running low power and a marginal antenna, I was not able to contact anyone, but it was very interesting to hear the change.

Several years later I was stationed in Northern California and again was on 160. There was some local daytime activity in the area. Again some interesting propagation occurred then too. I remember one station had a rapid QSB from S9 to S0 and back, and they were like 10 miles away. I figured it was the ground wave and possible sky wave interacting.

Some afternoons I do get on JT65 and start listening and calling CQ several hours before sunset and I think it helps stir up activity.

Bob, I am glad that you brought up this side of the Top Band.

Art  w1aer

On 5/13/2017 11:26 AM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
Hi Bob,

Welcome to 160m !

Milt Jensen N5IA (sk) used his huge array in the 160m contests to work
thousands of miles east and west while he was in full sunlight. (In fact I
believe he was the one who sponsored a plaque for daylight operation only in
the Stew Perry Contests)

For some of these exciting reports (too lengthy to reproduce here) go to and type in N5IA.

Look for the Stew Perry Contests (SPTDC) and his call N5IA(N7GP) then read
his DAYLIGHT reports.

Incidentally the first real exposure to daylight DX I personally experienced
was from CY9AA in 1997 when myself, Doug, VE1PZ and Dennis, K7BV setup on
that tiny rock in the Gulf of St. Lawrence (N. Atlantic area).  We had a
wonderful balloon supported 1/4wl wire vertical tied into a massive copper
groundscreen (leftover from a VLF beacon) and a salt water Fresnel zone.
With that setup and legal limit we were able to work EU a cpl hours before
sunset on that desolate rock.  An unforgettable experience.

Big stations like VY2ZM, VE1ZZ, etc. do the same all the time.

It still is exciting !

>From my home with a small-moderate sized 'array' of 2-inverted L's phased I
can SOMETIMES work EU just a little before sunset (pre-grayline) here and
have worked out as far as KH6/VK/ZL to a little after sunset here(post
grayline).  Hardly full sun, but it does show what can be done when you
think it not possible.

Have fun !

Mike VE9AA

Mike, Coreen & Corey

Keswick Ridge, NB

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Art Roberts W1AER
Tariffville, CT  FN31ov
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