..woke up about 30 mins before my SR and heard nothing on 160m. No
sigs. . Then saw a spot for VK9NT and went to the spotted freq. All of
a sudden a signal rose up out of the noise. Q5. Gave my call
once....and Luke came right back. Solid copy both ways. for my
#180/160 on TB.
Also spotted was the TX5 on FT8 but strictly ssb/cw/rtty here.
Apparently they dont do CW. on 160m.
BUT a "new one" on 160m in April is always a good thing!
Tnx to the tips I received about Luke being active which enabled me to
work them on the third sunrise. The first two SR's I didnt hear a
thing. But kept at it.
An interesting thing is I never got my radials rolled out for this
past winter. So Im operating the 1/4 wave INV-L (52' vertical leg)
without any radials. Just against a single ground rod. :) Of course,
the ACOM 1000 amp with 600w out helps. Must be the good "average"
ground offered by Midwestern soil!
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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 19:24:48 +0000
From: W3HKK@roadrunner.com
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Tnx Jon. THAT will encourage me to get up early.
I worked him on 10m a few days back. so he looks pretty active. and I
need Norfolk on TB.
Plus I worked an HZ in the evening on 20 LP. So some good things are
happening to tempt us away from 160.
Bob in Ohio
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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 11:24:45 +0000
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couldnt hear the VK9 this morning but others did.
No TX5
Heard the TX5 loud and clear on 7010 at 7:15am local
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:11:38 +0200
From: Henk Remijn PA5KT
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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Op 20-4-2022 om 11:51 schreef Roger Kennedy:
> Propagation on 160m between this part of Europe and North America
seems to
> have been really
> poor for several weeks now . . .
>
> RBN reports from across the pond are typically 20dB down on normal
most of
> the time . . . and hear very few NA stations on the band.
>
> Not sure why that is . . .
>
> Roger G3YRO
>
>
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 12:31:44 -0500
From: David Raymond
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Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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As we've said before, many of us in NA are fighting not just QRN but
significant attacks from lightning.? There a lot of us that are
essentially shut down for the season, my self included? (four square
elements are now grounded and the 8 circle is decommissioned).? I'm
still QRV somewhat with a 1/4 wave sloping vertical with elevated
radials but deaf as a post much of the time.
73. . . Dave, W0FLS
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>
> Op 20-4-2022 om 11:51 schreef Roger Kennedy:
>> Propagation on 160m between this part of Europe and North America
>> seems to
>> have been really
>> poor for several weeks now . . .
>>
>> RBN reports from across the pond are typically 20dB down on normal
>> most of
>> the time . . . and hear very few NA stations on the band.
>>
>> Not sure why that is . . .
>>
>> Roger G3YRO
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 12:37:30 -0700
From: Jim Brown
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Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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On 4/20/2022 10:31 AM, David Raymond wrote:
> There a lot of us that are essentially shut down for the season,
Out here on the west coast, the only time I hear CW on 160 (other
than
VE6WZ) is during contests. This time of year, my opportunity for DX
is
to VK/ZL in the morning, but deep into retirement, I don't do
mornings. :)
73, Jim K9YC
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 13:46:42 -0600
From: w5zn@w5zn.org
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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The situation here at W5ZN is the same as Dave's. Way too much
lightning
from now until September to keep all of the 160 meter antennas out
and
operational.
73 Joel W5ZN
On 2022-04-20 11:31, David Raymond wrote:
> As we've said before, many of us in NA are fighting not just QRN
but
> significant attacks from lightning.? There a lot of us that are
> essentially shut down for the season, my self included? (four
square
> elements are now grounded and the 8 circle is decommissioned).? I'm
> still QRV somewhat with a 1/4 wave sloping vertical with elevated
> radials but deaf as a post much of the time.
>
> 73. . . Dave, W0FLS
>
> On 4/20/2022 11:11 AM, Henk Remijn PA5KT via Topband wrote:
>>
[13]https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity/solar-cycle.html
/> [14]
/> >>
>>
>> Op 20-4-2022 om 11:51 schreef Roger Kennedy:
>>> Propagation on 160m between this part of Europe and North America
>>> seems to
>>> have been really
>>> poor for several weeks now . . .
>>>
>>> RBN reports from across the pond are typically 20dB down on
normal
>>> most of
>>> the time . . . and hear very few NA stations on the band.
>>>
>>> Not sure why that is . . .
>>>
>>> Roger G3YRO
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 13:35:14 -0700
From: Wes
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Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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Real DXers still do mornings.? I was up at 4:30 local checking the
band.? We're
the same age.
Wes? N7WS
On 4/20/2022 12:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 4/20/2022 10:31 AM, David Raymond wrote:
>> There a lot of us that are essentially shut down for the season,
>
> Out here on the west coast, the only time I hear CW on 160 (other
than VE6WZ)
> is during contests. This time of year, my opportunity for DX is to
VK/ZL in
> the morning, but deep into retirement, I don't do mornings. :)
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 23:05:27 +0100
From: "Roger Kennedy"
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I get why many of you in North America may not be active at the
moment, if
there's now a lot of QRN (let alone risk of lightning strikes) . . .
But are the poor RBN reports lately due to high QRN over there,
rather than
poor Propagation, do you think? (given that RBN shows signal strength
above
the Noise, rather than absolute signal strength)
Roger G3YRO
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:44:05 +0000
From: Mark Lunday
To: Wes , "topband@contesting.com"
Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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Wes, for me it?s not the age, but the mileage.
Mark Lunday
wd4elg@outlook.com
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Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
Real DXers still do mornings. I was up at 4:30 local checking the
band. We're
the same age.
Wes N7WS
On 4/20/2022 12:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 4/20/2022 10:31 AM, David Raymond wrote:
>> There a lot of us that are essentially shut down for the season,
>
> Out here on the west coast, the only time I hear CW on 160 (other
than VE6WZ)
> is during contests. This time of year, my opportunity for DX is to
VK/ZL in
> the morning, but deep into retirement, I don't do mornings. :)
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 19:33:49 -0500
From: kq2m@kq2m.com
To: Henk Remijn PA5KT
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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Hi Roger,
I monitor solar weather regularly and over the past 6 weeks there
have
been lots of C and M class Solar flares with an X class flare thrown
in.
Between all the flares, CME's and Radio storms there have been very
few
days when the K index has been below 2 even briefly, which, in
Western
CT is the propagation equivalent of throwing a wet blanket on a fire.
Then add in the QRN from Thunder static and rain static plus at least
FIVE Nor-easters in the past 6 weeks and you have all but eliminated
most of the good band openings. I realize that the weather related
storms don't affect propagation but all the qrn that they generate
keeps
some ops from wanting to turn on the radio to operate 160.
Perhaps the biggest cause of the reduced signal strength comes from
the
much higher Solar Flux and SSN numbers that we have been experiencing
as
cycle 25 ramps up. The higher levels of ionization, daytime
absorption
and increased MUF are all negatively impacting 160 M openings around
the
world. This will not improve significantly until the solar numbers
are
in decline again to low levels, hopefully not for another 5 - 6
years.
73
Bob, KQ2M
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>
> Op 20-4-2022 om 11:51 schreef Roger Kennedy:
>> Propagation on 160m between this part of Europe and North America
>> seems to
>> have been really
>> poor for several weeks now . . .
>>
>> RBN reports from across the pond are typically 20dB down on normal
>> most of
>> the time . . . and hear very few NA stations on the band.
>>
>> Not sure why that is . . .
>>
>> Roger G3YRO
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 22:49:09 -0700
From: Jim Brown
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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On 4/20/2022 1:35 PM, Wes wrote:
> I was up at 4:30 local checking the band.? We're the same age.
You and I think very differently about many things. Ham radio is PART
of
my life. :)
73, Jim K9YC
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 10:22:37 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Jon Zaimes, AA1K"
To: "topband@contesting.com"
Subject: Topband: VK9NT
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Still life in the band here
Worked VK9NT on 1824.5 CW at 1008z today, about 10 minutes before my
sunrise. Conditions were quiet.
73/Jon
Jon P. Zaimes, AA1K Tower climber for hire [33]http://www.aa1k.us/
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 08:33:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rich Dailey
Cc: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
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Yes, Rotten QRN. Yes, Rotten Lightning bursts. Yes, Solar conditions.
But many of us are lured away from 160 to 15, 10 and 6. Some of our
ears
are somewhere else other than 160 when the SF goes up.
I love the band, but sometimes it's hard to resist the stronger DX,
and
smaller gain antennae. :-)
Rich, N8UX
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From: "David Raymond"
To: "topband"
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 1:31:44 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation
As we've said before, many of us in NA are fighting not just QRN but
significant attacks from lightning.? There a lot of us that are
essentially shut down for the season, my self included? (four square
elements are now grounded and the 8 circle is decommissioned).? I'm
still QRV somewhat with a 1/4 wave sloping vertical with elevated
radials but deaf as a post much of the time.
73. . . Dave, W0FLS
On 4/20/2022 11:11 AM, Henk Remijn PA5KT via Topband wrote:
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[35]https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity/solar-cycle.html
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>
> Op 20-4-2022 om 11:51 schreef Roger Kennedy:
>> Propagation on 160m between this part of Europe and North America
>> seems to
>> have been really
>> poor for several weeks now . . .
>>
>> RBN reports from across the pond are typically 20dB down on normal
>> most of
>> the time . . . and hear very few NA stations on the band.
>>
>> Not sure why that is . . .
>>
>> Roger G3YRO
>>
>>
>>
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