Steve:
No offense, but with that kind of approach (and attitude), I suspect
you'd have serious trouble ever getting anything approved. The law is
clearly on their side if you don't have a permit. I would guess that
telling them to "take a hike" would have only started a nasty round of
discussion which would have escalated into something which would not
result in getting the permit (or end up costing several K in attorney's
fees). $62 is a pretty cheap price to pay to keep my 90' Rohn 45 and my
130' rotating Rohn 55, keep enjoying the hobby, and sleep at night. .
.don't you think??
73. . . Dave
W0FLS
> ----------
> From: Steve Hurst[SMTP:shurst@magiclink.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 7:51 PM
> To: Raymond Dave-CSUS04; Towertalk; dlambert@spd.dsccc.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] city council horror
>
> Ray ,
>
> I'm afraid that if it were me , I'd have told THEM to "Take A
> Hike" !! I
> sure as heck would'nt have paid them any money for a "permit" on
> something
> that I already installed years ago !! Plus was told by "city
> officials"
> that I did'nt need any permit because there was no code on the subject
> !
> Call me a trouble maker if you like , but I'd have made THEM prove to
> me in
> a court that I needed the permit . These people are elected are they
> not?
> They work for us don't they . I think that they are just money hungry
> (who***) and go after easy targets , like hams who do not wish to make
> trouble . Next thing you know we will have to put little stickers on
> our
> towers and register them every year !!!! Opps..... guess I should
> not
> give THEM any ideas , THEY may be listening !!!! Just my opinion. :-)
>
> 73,
> Steve Hurst
> KA7NOC ( southern Idaho )
> http://www.magiclink.com/web/shurst
> shurst@magiclink.com
>
> " I'm cooler than you are. Why don't you fix your little problem and
> light
> this candle ?"
> Alan B. Shepard
>
> ----------
> > From: Raymond Dave-CSUS04 <csus04@lmpsil02.comm.mot.com>
> > To: Towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>; dlambert@spd.dsccc.com
> > Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] city council horror
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 5:18 PM
> >
> >
> > Don't assume that because you live in the country you're immune from
> > such probems. I just built a house 2 years ago on 30 acres about 30
> > miles west of Des Moines. . . it's very rural here. The county just
> > notified me 2 weeks ago that I need building permits for my 90' and
> 130'
> > towers.
> >
> > Before I bought the property 3 years ago I discussed my request for
> > towers with the county zoning and planning office. They told me
> that
> > there were no covenants or other restriction on ham radio towers.
> They
> > further advised me that they had never issued a permit for such a
> thing.
> > I politely asked for their opinion in writing when I was told that
> "the
> > fact that there are no codes or restrictions governing them" was
> enough
> > "proof in writing." They seemed somehwat insulted.
> >
> > I built my tower during the very early construction phases of my
> home
> > construction 2 years ago. The county inspectors were here numerous
> > times inspecting the house while the towers were up. No mention of
> the
> > towers was ever made.
> >
> > None of this, of course, really makes any difference. Now, a new
> group
> > of people are running the county zoning and planning. They
> requested a
> > permit. . . . . they were nice about it. I, in turn, was polite and
> > congenial hoping to avoid any confrontation. They requested a site
> plan
> > drawn to scale and general information on the towers, base anchors,
> guy
> > anchors, etc. I furrnished them the information right out of the
> Rohn
> > catalog which seemed to satisfy them.
> >
> > I have now paid my $62 for the permits and awaiting their arrival.
> The
> > secretary informed me that the permits would be granted as they do
> not
> > request payment for permits which are not granted. I have breathed
> a
> > temporary sigh of relief. However, I will feel much better when the
> > permits are in my hands.
> >
> > Don't ever assume just because you live in the country, you're
> immune
> > from this kind of problem. If it can happen in rural Iowa, it can
> > happen anywhere.
> >
> > 73. . . Dave
> > W0FLS
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: dlambert@spd.dsccc.com[SMTP:dlambert@spd.dsccc.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 2:10 PM
> > > To: towertalk@contesting.com
> > > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] city council horror
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For those who are interested... the city of Plano DID pass a 6
> month
> > > moratorium on the issuance of amateur radio tower permits. This
> is so
> > > they can "review" the situation. The are planning to have some
> local
> > > hams on the review committee, from what I hear.
> > >
> > > It makes me glad I live far enough out of the city so that there
> are
> > > no
> > > such problems with putting up a tower.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dave Lambert, KD5DBL
> > > dlambert@spd.dsccc.com
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Having gone through something similar, I encourage any ham able
> to
> > > attend
> > > > this "event" to do so.
> > > >
> > > > Many hams in the Tampa area I never even knew existed showed up
> > > (close to
> > > > 100) when it was our day with the county commissioners,
> including
> > > someone
> > > > they knew....a ham who they knew from his work with emergency
> > > planning
> > > > roles.
> > > >
> > > > If you can help this gentleman out - it is true - there is
> something
> > > to be
> > > > said for as large turnout. If you are able to talk this thing
> up on
> > > a
> > > > local repeater that may help raise your attendance level, too.
> > > >
> > > > More IS better here.
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Jim, K4OJ
> > > >
> > > > Florida Contest Group - visit our website at:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.4w.com/deemer/fcg.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Florida Contest Group sponsors the Florida QSO Party, check
> out
> > > the FQP
> > > > website@:
> > > >
> > > > http://home1.gte.net/wd4ahz/fcg/ssqp.htm
> > > >
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