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FWD: Re: [TowerTalk] CIA-HF as grid-dipper?

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Subject: FWD: Re: [TowerTalk] CIA-HF as grid-dipper?
From: k1ir@designet.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:11:13 -0500
Tom,

My gut tells me you are right. It seems intuitive that it would take an awful 
lot of coupling to generate a useful dip on one of these analyzers. Thanks for 
your thoughts. I would probably build the coupling link - not buy one - if I 
were going to try it at all.

A few months ago I passed on an opportunity to acquire a dipper. Shouldn't have 
let it go.

73,

Jim

---------- Forwarded Message ----------

FROM:    "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
TO:      TowerTalk Post <towertalk@contesting.com>, Jim Idelson 
<k1ir@designet.com>
DATE:    Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:43:48 -0500

RE:      Re: [TowerTalk] CIA-HF as grid-dipper?

Hi Jim,

> I own a CIA-HF and I've been using it for a variety of antenna
> measurements. I am interested in using it as a grid-dipper with an
> inductive coupling to a coil or trap. Can you suggest how to use the
> CIA-HF in this application? What should I use for a coupling link?

All analyzers like this, including the MFJ, really have no sensitivity 
at all when used as a grid dip meter.

In a conventional dipmeter, the coil is part of a tank circuit. The 
magnetic flux around the coil is extremely high because the 
operating Q of the coil is extremely high (part of an oscillator).

In an antenna analyzer, the Q is low. There is little flux around the 
coil, and it couples poorly to anything you measure.

Personally, I think all these dip kits for analyzers are a waste of 
money.


73, Tom W8JI
w8ji@contesting.com

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