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[TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi

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Subject: [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi
From: alsopb@gloryroad.net (alsopb)
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 15:24:30 +0000
Mauri,

What you say is true -- unless you have a HAZER tower.  At least it is
for 20-10 m quads.

Alternatively an EZ-way tilt over tower makes the job easy too. 
Unfortunately, EZ-way towers haven't been built for 15-25 years and
you'd be
lucky to find one in decent shape.  Too bad someone couldn't resurrect
this design....  

The quad is easy to putup and work on.  
You do need an 8' step ladder.

It is also easy to service (which you have to do).

The advantages in my case (max gain for min turning radius)
outweighted any disadvantages.  Also, since there are no traps, high
power is no problem.
Multiband operation is also quite easy.  Mine runs 20,17,15,10 on one
boom with one feedline.

Just like any project, you have to think through the installation
before you commit to an antenna.  

73 de Brian/K3KO


"i4jmy@iol.it" wrote:
> 
> Quad are mechanically prone to give troubles, and ther installation is
> more complex and time consuming since they are 3D antennas.
> Expecially with 20 meters, or worse with 40m elements, the quad boom
> can't be ever at man's level and one has to suffer a bit when
> installing a completed antenna on the mast.
> On the other hand one can think to assemble the quad after the boom is
> attached to mast, but again this is a time consuming procedure
> (buliding a part of the antenna when raising it) and if something has
> to be changed (tunings, repairs) all the above operation has to be
> reversed.
> To me, a yagi looks a more steady and practical solution for a city lot
> although quads can be made nowadays more light, strong and flexible
> using composite materials.
> 
> 73,
> Mauri I4JMY
> that reduce the frequency of failures.
> 
> > ---------- Initial message -----------
> >
> > From    : owner-towertalk@contesting.com
> > To      : towertalk@contesting.com, Bgsalesmel@cs.com
> > Cc      :
> > Date    : Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:42:30 EST
> > Subject : [TowerTalk] Quad vs. yagi
> >
> > Being a "new guy" on this list makes me wonder what am I getting
> into - Some
> > of you guys have got to be PHD's in electronics or something from
> Star Wars.
> >
> > This basic thread/question is of great interest to me - I am going to
> be
> > buying something to put up on my 50ft of 25G that's laying in the
> yard snow
> > covered now.
> >
> > Been thinking and looking at all the 10-15-20 and -40 variations out
> there.
> > My budget is about $700 +/- come April or May. I have a rebuilt Ham V
> (?)
> > rotor with a CD-44 control box (8 wire) and a short 2" mast (5 ft). I
> will
> > also be rigging a side arm with pulley for some wire hanging at about
> 10ft
> > below the main ant. I live on a 1/3rd acre city lot here in Coeur
> d'Alene, ID
> > - this is about all I can put up.
> >
> > I have looked at the Quads and the Yagi's. We do get ice storms up
> here, last
> > big one in '96. The Force 12 models look like they could take it. I'm
> not a
> > real lover of traps, but could live with them if the ant was a high
> > value/benefit item. I have an FT-900AT and a 300 watt tuner. Main ant
> will
> > get coax and the hanging wires will get ladder line. I do not plan on
> any
> > high power amp for many years, if then.
> >
> > Will a quad live through an ice storm? Will the yagi's do so any
> better? I
> > can handle about 9 sq. ft with our winds up here, they sometimes gust
> as high
> > as 70 mph. Very rare to get ice with any wind.
> >
> > Spec's are nice to read on a cold winters' night - what are some of
> your real
> > world observations of these two ant types? My ground is "average" and
> I'm
> > going to try and improve that with things buried.
> >
> > Also, do you guys never "cut 'n' paste" when answering posts? The
> length gets
> > my finger numb scrolling down all the time.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mel  KD7DCR
> > "new guy"
> 
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