Jim,
I stand corrected. That's very good to know. I do know the zoning rules and
bldg permits are two different animals, I just didn't know which one dealt with
setbacks and so I used the don't ask, don't tell strategy. Before working with
the bldg dept I had to pay a visit to zoning. They dug out some manual, asked
how high I was going with the tower, approved it, and sent me on my way to the
bldg dept who laid the IBC-2000 90 MPH wind calcs on me. Neither dept asked
about setbacks and I wasn't about to ask.
73
k1ir@designet.com wrote:
> Building code and zoning law are not the same thing. A proposed structure
> must first meet zoning requirements, then it's construction will be guided
> by standardized building code. Maximum height, setbacks and other local
> restrictions are not set forth by building code; they are in the zoning
> laws.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim K1IR
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan C. Zack" <k7acz@cox.net>
> To: <k1ir@designet.com>
> Cc: <msadams@acsu.buffalo.edu>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Town Code Definition Conundrum
>
> > Jim,
> > At my bldg dept IBC-2000 is the Bible and final word as to the structural
> requirements. Couldn't you refer to section 3108 of IBC-2000 and ask where
> is the fallback requirement?
> >
> > Besides the bldg permit you are correct that he may also require a zoning
> permit or variance. I was told that if my tower was to be over 45 ft I
> would need a variance. Too much red tape
> > and too big of a chance it would be disapproved (all it takes is one
> neighbor to not sign off on it) so I will stick with a 40 ft for now.
> >
> > Maybe try to get past the desk clerk and ask to speak to the actual bldg
> inspector who will issue the final permit. My city has one inspector who is
> the designated tower expert. The clerk
> > may be confused as to what you want to do.
> >
> > k1ir@designet.com wrote:
> >
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > You should always assume that the town believes it regulates the
> > > construction of EVERY structure in town. It's just a matter of which
> words
> > > in the zoning bylaw they will apply. You are correct about the
> commercial
> > > parts that she noted. It is very unlikely that those words apply to what
> you
> > > are doing.
> > >
> > > But, I'm sure the town does regulate 'structures', and your tower is
> most
> > > certainly a structure. If there is nothing in the bylaw that exempts
> amateur
> > > radio towers [a type of structure] from the limits imposed on other
> > > structures, then what you have is probably a 'by-right' ability to put
> up a
> > > tower not exceeding the standard height and setback requirements. If you
> > > want a taller tower, then you may need to take one of two possible
> > > approaches: (1) get a special WRITTEN dispensation for your project from
> the
> > > town in the form of a building permit or special permit, or (2) look to
> > > federal law for preemptive law [NY is not yet a PRB-1 state].
> > >
> > > - Get your own copy of the zoning bylaw and read it cover to cover. You
> will
> > > find many answers.
> > > - Find out about other amateur towers in town and see how they were
> handled.
> > > If you find towers that were put up on verbal permission only, pay no
> > > attention. You are looking for solid documentation provided by the town.
> > >
> > > GL es 73,
> > >
> > > Jim K1IR
> > >
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> > Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
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Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
Quality Engineer, The Boeing Company, Retired
Aviation Chief Warrant Officer, U.S. Coast Guard, Retired
U.S. Coast Guard, Always Ready, Always There
Every hour, Every day, Around the Clock and Around the World
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