I was wondering how long it would be before someone said something like this
:-) Well, I guess it's less yucky than my grandaughter's idea about spaghetti
and....
73, Jerry K3BZ
----- Original Message -----
From: k2qmf@juno.com
To: w4zw@comcast.net
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com ; jimlux@earthlink.net
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] spider balls.. they work
Hello All,
With all this talk about spider balls, can someone
please tell me how many male spiders I would have to
catch in order for me to make one of these things????
Thanks for any info and 73, Ted K2QMF
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:19:26 -0400 "W4ZW" <w4zw@comcast.net> writes:
>
> Jim Lux wrote:
>
> It seems that the manufacturers of the dissipators are legally very
> aggressive, having threatened lawsuits against IEEE and NFPA, among
> others.
> This prompted a more thorough than usual review of the IEEE paper
> (by
> Mousa... google for Mousa and Lightning... it will turn up).
> Interestingly,
> Mousa does say that the dissipators can have a beneficial effect on
> a
> certain class of discharges, but actually makes another kind worse,
> and,
> overall, that you're better off with a well designed conventional
> system.
> Also, for what it's worth, the special class of discharges
> apparently cannot
> occur when the thing being discharged is less than 300 meters tall.
>
>
> The mfr of the dissipator tried to get a NFPA standard for the
> dissipators
> (as opposed to the existing NPFA 780 lightning rod standards), and
> when a
> huge number (probably every lightning expert in the world) of very
> knowledgable people, backed up by extensive research, said that the
> proposed
> standard was, in short, "bunk".
>
> ----------------------
>
> And here's the rest of this story:
>
> The controversy over the dissipation theory of operation still
> rages.
>
> Jim chose this example, but it is a good demonstration of how
> difficult it
> is to realize a consensus
> of experts concerning lightning theory.
>
> In 1993 the NFPA (National Fire Protection Association-the authority
> in the
> US concerning
> wiring codes) declined to approve proposed NFPA 781, which would
> have
> set Early Streamer Emission standards for a controversial "improved"
>
> type of air terminal (spiderballs), and presumably given the ESE
> industry a shot in the arm. ESE makers sued, claiming NFPA 781 had
> just
> as much scientific backing as NFPA 780. In a settlement the NFPA
> agreed
> to have ESE technology reevaluated by an outside panel.
>
> The panel confirmed that there was no scientific basis for NFPA 781.
> But it
> also
> said there's no scientific basis for NFPA 780 (traditional lightning
> rods)
> either.
>
> Go figure.
>
>
> Jon Hamlet, W4ZW
>
> Casey Key Island, FL
> "A little piece of paradise in the Gulf of Mexico"
>
>
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