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Re: [TowerTalk] New W3LPL Radial System

Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] New W3LPL Radial System
From: Jan Erik Holm <sm2ekm@telia.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:03:27 +0100
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I can testify to this too. At 66 degs north latitude propagation
on 160 never got very good during CQWW CW but I spent most of
the time on 160 just to look for new countries.
LPL was the strongest US eastcoast in my RX, still not more then
S-5 but still strongest, KC1XX wasn´t more then S-2 or so.
KV0Q was the loudest US but he is not representative for the
eastcoast, he was around S-7 and that was a big signal (hi).
When will people learn that 60 radials on ground will do the
trick and stop fooling around with the elevated stuff.

73 Jim SM2EKM
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donovanf@starpower.net wrote:
> This year the elevated radials (two per vertical) on my 4-square 
> vertical array were removed and replaced with 60 radials for 
> each vertical, laid directly on the ground.  Each is 120 feet long, 
> except at the center of the array where they would otherwise 
> cross over.  
> 
> I thought the e-mail below from K1HTV, one of the W3LPL 160 
> meter operators, would be of great interest to the group.  
> As W8JI said earlier, P L E A S E don't replace your elevated 
> radials with ground radials.  We don't need the competition...
> 
> 73!
> Frank
> W3LPL
> 
> 
> ---- Original message ----
> 
>>Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:18:22 -0500 (EST)
>>From: Richard Zwirko <dz@VOA.GOV> 
>>Subject: Re: 4 square  
>>To: bernie@dailydx.com
>>Cc: W3LPL Frank Donovan <donovanf@erols.com>, 
> 
> dick_chambers@amecom.com, k1htv@verizon.net
> 
>>Tnx for the report Bernie. The 4-Square sure played well in all
>>directions. Dick, after you left Sunday morning, ZL3IX 
> 
> answered my CQ. He
> 
>>was the only station heard in the Pacific. No JAs were heard. 
> 
> W4ZV put
> 
>>out VK3ZL on two different freqs but I couldn't hear Bob on 
> 
> any of the 
> 
>>antennas. It was great to hear, but unfortunately not work, 
> 
> 8Q7DV on the
> 
>>Maldives. He was in for over 10 minutes right after our 
> 
> Sunday sunset, 
> 
>>QSX 2KHz up.  Jack, VE1ZZ was able to break the huge 
> 
> European pileup
> 
>>on 1812.5 KHz. He was the only NA station to work him. 
>>
>>On Sunday evening in the last hour, 4U60UN was country #91, 
> 
> a new 160M
> 
>>country high mark for W3LPL in a CQWW CW test. The 70 
> 
> countries that we
> 
>>worked in the CQWW Phone test was also our highest ever. It 
> 
> was great to
> 
>>be the first Stateside station to work Chris, A45XR. 
>>
>>As best as I can remember, the only countries heard but not 
> 
> worked during
> 
>>the contest were 8Q7, LU and 9K.  9K2MU showed up at 
> 
> 23:59Z Sunday with a
> 
>>great signal but the clock ran out before I could snag him. I 
> 
> heard LR2F
> 
>>briefly the first night calling another station, then he 
> 
> disappeared.
> 
>>OA4/DL5YWM was heard Friday evening before the contest 
> 
> started calling CQs
> 
>>with a nice signal, but could not hear any of the throng of U.S. 
> 
> stations
> 
>>that were calling him, including many big signal stations. 
> 
> Looks like they
> 
>>didn't work 160M or 80M in the contest. We should have been 
> 
> able to work
> 
>>active SV and TK stations, but we never hear them after 
> 
> responding to a
> 
>>number of Packet Cluster putouts. The Cluser, BTW, was 
> 
> another valuable
> 
>>aid.
>>
>>In the 160M reflector, there was mention from a station in the 
> 
> central
> 
>>part of the U.S.about signals arriving at high angles. It will be 
> 
> good
> 
>>to have a low 160M dipole in our bag of tricks for those future 
> 
> times
> 
>>when signals are better than with the low angle verticals.
>>
>>As in the CQWW Phone contest, the 4-Square (NW) once 
> 
> again proved to be
> 
>>better to KL7 than the West vertical and even better on 
> 
> receive than the
> 
>>NW beverage. During the ZL QSO the 4-Square (SW) was 
> 
> better than the 
> 
>>south and the west verticals, and better than the S, SW or W 
> 
> Beverages.
> 
>>When working ZD8, the SW 4-Square was better on receive 
> 
> than the NE, E, 
> 
>>or SE beverages. The quiet night sure helped. During the 
> 
> reception
> 
>>of 8Q7DV at our Sunday sunset, I heard him best at first on 
> 
> the NE 
> 
>>4-Square, then after a few minutes the NNE Beverage proved 
> 
> to be the
> 
>>better receive antenna. The 60 radials have done wonders to 
> 
> make the
> 
>>W3LPL 4-Square into a great Topband antenna. Thanks Frank 
> 
> & Bernie for
> 
>>installing all of that copper. It was great to work again with 
> 
> Dick, 
> 
>>AI3M at the 160M position. We've worked well together since I 
> 
> joined the
> 
>>W3LPL team over 10 years ago.  
>>
>>73 de Rich - K1HTV
>>
>>= = =
>>
>>On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Bernie McClenny, W3UR wrote:
>>
>>
>>>10:57:52   
>>>
>>>W4ZV Bill 
>>>
>>>Bernie last night G3ZES said LPL was the strongest USA so 
> 
> that should make Frank feel good!
> 
> 
>>>Bernie McClenny, W3UR
> 

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