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Re: [TowerTalk] Rebar cage - ???

To: "'K8RI on Tower talk'" <k8ri-tower@charter.net>, <Eg9k@aol.com>,<towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rebar cage - ???
From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Reply-to: garyschafer@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:12:09 -0500
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Hi Roger,

Did you find that the fiberglass reinforced concrete had little slivers of
fiberglass constantly coming out of it? Also when finishing it was there a
problem with the fiberglass?

Thanks
Gary  K4FMX


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> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rebar cage - ???
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Hi all -   This past summer I had a  24' x 30' slab poured 4" thick with
> a
> > 3'
> > x 4' by 16' deep at one corner to build  a barbecue on it. I was
> surprised
> > when I noticed they weren't using any rebar or  heavy wire.
> 
> It depends on what kind of stresses the concrete has to endure from use
> and
> the weather.
> 
> My shop floor has the new, "high fiber" concrete and it's a great floor.
> It
> also has the heavy wire reinforcement, yet there are about 5 or 6 find
> cracks that run diagonally across each of the four corners.  The thermal
> stress in the corners has caused it to crack.  They are fine cracks though
> and would disappear for another season with a good coat of paint.
> 
> However the shop has a "rat wall" around it that extends below the frost
> line.  Were I to do it again I'd put in a complete seperate foundation and
> isolate the floor from the foundation with 1/2" bead board. The shop is
> heated with a gas fired IR tube heater and the floor reaches room
> temperature which can be 72F or higher when I have some resin lay-ups
> curing. That means on a cold night the temperature of that concrete goes
> from 72F to below zero in less than a foot.
> 
> >From a temperature standpoint you could walk on that floor barefoot.
> Having
> a distinct dislike for picking metal splinters out of my feet I'll let
> some
> one else do that.
> 
> I do need to put a couch, and easy chair out there.  The computer, which
> is
> part of the *old* ham station "out there" has a large screen and built in
> TV
> tuner/recorder as does this one here in the ham shack.
> 
> Roger Halstead (K8RI and ARRL 40 year Life Member)
> N833R - World's oldest Debonair CD-2
> www.rogerhalstead.com
> 
> > The concrete man explained that the rebar wasn't  necessary with the
> new
> > type concrete with the reinforcing fibers in it. He  stated he would put
> > in the
> > rebar / wire if I wanted it, but it just be a  extra expense. I
> explained
> > to
> > him that I had put in several pier type tower  bases over the years and
> > had used
> > the rebar. His answer to me was he didn't  think the rebar would be
> needed
> > with the new type concrete, maybe the heavy grid  wire but not the
> rebar.
> > I
> > figure there is some merit to what he's telling me  because he's been in
> > the
> > concrete business for over 20 years. Something to think  about     73's
> > Harold
> > -      K9ge
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