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Re: [TowerTalk] Climbing belts/harnesses demonstration

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Climbing belts/harnesses demonstration
From: "K8RI on Tower talk" <k8ri-tower@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 02:42:43 -0400
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> This past weekend at HamCom in Plano Texas; a representative of Pinkerton
> Sales; a manufacturing rep company for "Ultra-Safe", a climbing belt
> ("fall-arrest")  company, gave an excellent demo outside of the convention
> hall on their demo-trailer. He would winch up a 220# weight and demo
> different situations. The message was that different lanyards (  position 
> or
> fall-arrest, whichever) exert dramatic differences in force to the user 
> when
> a fall occurs.
> As I recall (+/-)and briefly:
> 1. Six foot conventional lanyard: 2500# (ouch!)

At 2500# you are looking at a bit over 11 Gs and that is going to hurt even 
with the best fall arresting equipment.

> 2. Six foot lanyard w/ sewn fold-out layers (shock absorbing): 700# (still
> "ouch")

Not really. That's only a tad over 3 Gs which might make a person go 
"Oofffffhhh". Even at my age I can tollerate a sustained 4 Gs relaxed. 4Gs 
does not hurt and for that matter neither does 6.  However it does make a 
difference if that force is applied on a 2" wide belt or a full body 
harness. It also makes a difference if you don't have the harness uniformly 
snug and land upright with just the leg straps tight which could alter the 
pitch of your voice.   It doesn't matter how quick the G's are applied as G 
is already an acelleration.  The big difference is how quick you slow down 
(applied G forces) as well as how uniformly the pressure is applied to the 
body.

These numbers are impressive and I believe they exist, (I know they exist) 
but I'd ask how they are measured.
What you need are two figures.  The instantaneous force in Gs as well as the 
integrated, or total force. It's a whale of a lot easier to measure using 
metric units though.

If you calculate the speed of the object based on the distance dropped you 
can calculate the energy although the energy is slugs when using foot 
pounds.  Usually getting to the foot pounds is good enough, but effects on 
the body are usually computed using G forces.  Compare that energy to that 
measured and you know how quickly the object is stopping and how much 
distance it took to stop.  Unfortunately that is not an effective number for 
determining comfort, damage, or lack there of.

When you drop a weight, it depends on the distance it takes to stop that 
weight so it makes a big difference whether a spring scale, or solid state 
transducer is used to measure that force. Even then the time constant of the 
measurement device needs to be taken into consideration.  The old joke about 
it isn't the fall that kills you, but the sudden stop at the end really 
isn't a joke.  The human body can withstand some suprising forces, but you 
eventually reach a point where things inside start coming loose even with no 
damage on the outside. Again it depends on the angle.  Colonel John Stapp 
survived over 45 Gs in the Airforce rocket sled experiments. OTOH that is 
far more than you'd want to try applied to the long axis of the body even 
sitting down.  I never figured it out, but I stopped in about 4 or 5 feet 
from 55 MPH.

The effect on the human body depends on many things up to a point. Of course 
the magnitude is first, but almost as important is how much of the body is 
subjected to that force and at what angle.  THAT is one of the reasons why a 
full body harness *CAN* be so much more effective than a narrow climbing 
belt. Even a short fall can be bad if your gear whips you end for end and 
beats your head against the tower.   (Think of where your center of gravity 
is located when using a hook on a climbing belt) Early linemen learned that 
the wide 5 and 6 inch belts were far better than a single 2".  I've climbed 
a good many poles with a 2" leather climbing belt and climbers. I hasten to 
add that was a long time and many splinters ago.

Another factor is that angle at which the stopping force is applied. That is 
why the position of the D-Ring attach point is important. BUT and I 
emphasize the "BUT" you are now playing the odds.  The D-Ring is attached at 
the point where it is "most likely" to do the most good.  Depending on the 
situation the best point may be either the front or the back. A good bit of 
that depends on the design of the fall arrest gear and how it ataches to the 
tower.

> 3. Six foot lanyard, now get this,  WITH A KNOT IN IT: "0" force; it broke
> instantly! (Big ouch!)

It depends on the knot, but half and full, hard knots are quite capable of 
reducing the strength of the rope to a fraction of its original breaking 
strength.  Even good knots reduce the strength, but I believe the so called 
"hard knot" reduces it the most.

> At least on two of the ouch's, the user survived.
>
> He demonstrated, basically, two types of climbing harnesses:
> 1. Conventional, as we know, nylon straps.
> 2. A nylon harness, but the straps have some very slight stretch to them. 
> I
> liked that harness.

I don't like Nylon for one reason only. That is its suseptibility to 
environmental deteoriation.  It's sensitive to UV, Ozone, and many ordinary 
chemicals.
Nylon is fine if it is replaced regularly, or properly tested. As I recall 
from many years ago we used to be able to have the belts recertified. Where 
I worked we just replaced them with new ones every year and cut up the old 
ones.

>
> He added that any and all harnesses must be tightened "firmly"; not loose
> and, of course, not uncomfortably too-tight. Any extreme slack or 
> sloppiness
> can be harmful to ones health in the event of a fall.

When flying aerobatics if the belt or harness is loose enough to slide, or 
rater *work* your hand, or even a finger under it, we figure it isn't tight 
enough and yes, that is uncomfortable  IOW if the 5 point harness isn't 
uncomfortable it isn't tight enough<:-)) It's also a lot tighter than we'd 
use for a climbing harness. OTOH we aren't trying to keep our butt down in 
the seat while pulling 4 or 5 negative Gs.


>
> He also mentioned that always someone should be present while the climber 
> is
> working in the tower and have a plan in the event of a fall. He cautioned
> that even with the best fall-arrest full body harness, it is very 
> dangerous
> to let the climber hang very long in the harness as the force of the leg
> straps in the groin area can shut-off blood circulation. It has been 
> fatal.
>
> He demo'd one little gadget, like a reeled-up harness, that you hook ahead
> of your climb that catch's you immediately; with no drop at all; much, I
> think, as a vehicle safety belt does. Gradual  movement around the tower 
> or
> climbing does not set it off; but a "instant thrust" (my words) does; 
> again,
> much like a vehicle safety belt.
>
> He said that  OSHA does not approve climbing gear; but does dis-approve
> climbing gear.
>
> As a climber of my own and others towers; it sure got me to thinking. If 
> you
> ever have the opportunity to view one of these demonstrations; I highly
> recommend it. Especially for those of us that need to be re-educated from
> using the old conventional belt-only climbing belt. Sure it worked and
> worked good; but it is full of weaknesses.

The weakest like is still the same though. The one wearing and using the 
gear.

Roger Halstead (K8RI and ARRL 40 year Life Member)
N833R - World's oldest Debonair CD-2
www.rogerhalstead.com


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