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Re: [TowerTalk] Linear loaded KE4UYP vertical

Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Linear loaded KE4UYP vertical
From: Robert Morris <robrk@nidhog.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:57:13 -0400
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I got confused with a vertical antenna and "Totally Omnidirectional 
pattern of high wave angle horzontally polarized Radiation"

K4SAV wrote:
> Don't believe everything you read in print.  I just modeled an 80 meter 
> version of that antenna, using the recommended dimensions, top wire at 
> 31 ft and 65 ft long, with 82 ft of wire in the vertical portion with 
> the bottom wire 5 ft above ground. 
> 
> It resonated at 3.69 MHz with an impedance of 26 ohms.  He claims the 
> longer wire on the vertical side off-center feeds the antenna and raises 
> the impedance to 50 ohms.  Didn't work for me.  If you matched the 
> antenna to 25 ohms the 2 to 1 SWR bandwidth would be about 70 KHz.  (He 
> claims 300 KHz).   The gain is 2.9 dBi straight up.  (He claims 1 dBi.)  
> 2.9 dBi is about the same as an 80 meter dipole at 18.5 feet.  He claims 
> it is 80 to 85% efficient.  EZNEC calculates 4.13 dB loss.  That's 
> equivalent to 38.6% efficiency.   He claims it is totally 
> omni-directional.  At 30 degrees elevation it has a F/B of 3.6 dB. 
> 
> I didn't include the feedline or any metal support poles in the model.
> 
> I didn't do the 160 meter version, but I would expect much poorer numbers.
> 
> Jerry, K4SAV
> 
> Marinus Loewensteijn wrote:
> 
>> Long time lurker here but I have a question that I do not seem to be able to 
>> answer satisfactory.
>>
>> At the moment I have 44 foot doublet up for 80 and 40 and am wanting to move 
>> away from a balanced feeder to coax. I am thinking of putting a scaled 
>> version of the above antenna up for 40 first before 80m. 
>>
>> If it is totally a disaster then I may put up a rotatable dipole lke the 
>> Cushcraft D40 or Hy-gain Discoverer 7-1. 
>>
>> Due to size restrictions and to the location of TV satelite dishes of both 
>> myself and close neighbours I cannot put up anything larger than this. 
>>
>> I wonder if any of the TowerTalkatonians has opinions or experience with 
>> this antenna. ( members.tripod.com/~KE4UYP/80m_160m_Antenna.html) 
>>
>> Many thanks in advance, 73 Marinus ZL2ML ..
>>  
>>
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