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Re: [TowerTalk] am towers

To: "D.Calder" <towertalk@n4zkf.com>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] am towers
From: jim Jarvis <jimjarvis@optonline.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:15:23 -0500
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not what I meant, Don.

The tower is substantial.    Whatever 'proof' was performed was  
minimal, if
they only charged you $1200:

It really depends on the nature of the AM array.   If it were an omni  
situation,
just taking a couple of readings at a mile would suffice.    If,  
however, it was a
4 tower inline, where one of the towers had little or negative energy  
in it,  the
pattern could be easily disturbed.   In that case, a full proof could  
be required.
It has to be done when there is no skywave.  Depending on Frequency,  
you could
be limited to 10am to 2pm.    It takes a 2 man crew for each car, and  
you might get in
one radial a day, given 10 points, depending on terrain and roads and  
weather.
That's 20 man-days.   Plus the consulting engineer.

When you take a f.s. reading,  you also have to take a picture, time  
stamped.
This clearly identifies the measurement point, establishes the time  
line, and gives a visual
record of environmental variables which may be around the point,  
disturbing
the reading.    When the data is reduced, some points need to be  
discarded as
useless, and replaced with others.  More driving, for repeat  
measurements.
Although with computers it's fairly easy, now to reduce all readings,  
each reading
needs to be reduced to account for distance.

In a re-proof, to verify no change,  you could take a skeletal set of
readings, looking for shifts in nulls.    So, you might start by  
taking several readings
on radials each side of each null.   If the f.s. readings haven't  
changed,  then
you could spot-check the main lobe(s), and in the center of each  
null.   If they're
nominally ok, you're good to go.   THAT could be achieved in maybe  
two or three days,
depending on weather and the number of towers.    At the current  
contract rate for
a chief engineer,  call it 10-20 hours @ $65... no change found, and  
no consultant required.
Your $1200 figure is reasonable, under those conditions.

n2ea


On Feb 16, 2009, at 7:02 AM, D.Calder wrote:

> Putting up a 350' tower 1/4" mile from a AM station is nothing?
>
> n4zkf
>
>
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