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Re: [TowerTalk] Hot Dip Galvanizing

To: "Roger \(K8RI\)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>, "Michael Ryan" <mryan001@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Hot Dip Galvanizing
From: "WA3GIN" <wa3gin@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:34:44 -0400
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The aluminum rivets melted out of the tower sections while in the acid 
dip...I know the owner and he replaced the revits with stainless steel 
bolts.  I climbed the tower last year. Its in fine shape with no rust.

73,
dave
wa3gin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
To: "Michael Ryan" <mryan001@tampabay.rr.com>
Cc: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Hot Dip Galvanizing


>
>
> Michael Ryan wrote:
>> A 48ft ROHN BX tower was taken to an electroplating business near
>> Fredricksburg, VA a number of years ago. A friend of mine who lived in
>> Fairfax, Va wanted the tower sections put in the acid bath before the
>> galvanizing process to remove the rust, etc.  After the sections were
>> supposedly tanked, they did fall apart as they rivets fell apart.  He had
>> the sections galvanized and later re-assembled them with nuts and bolts. 
>> It
>> was a bit tedious but appeared to work fine and may still be up now. 
>> This
>> was 10-12 years ago. Good luck...  - Mike
>>
>
> So, why not just re-rivet the sections.  Get a Sack of the proper size
> (round head) aircraft  rivets, a hammer, and bucking bar.  A pneumatic
> tool is faster but not as easy to control for the novice as the hammer
> and it can be done alone as the hammer and bucking bar is a two man job.
> The rivets are soft so they are easy to install.    More than likely the
> way the HBX goes together you could do the riveting with a "squeeze"
> tool that looks much like one of the tools used to put on the
> compression F connectors, but fits the rivets.  Check "Aircraft Spruce"
> as they sell on line. Or if you like airplanes you could go over to
> Oshkosh Wisconsin this week to the world's largest fly-in where the
> airport becomes the busiest in the world with twice the daily movements
> at Ohare and it does them all between 7 AM and 7 or 8 PM (gates open at
> 8:00 AM) I've seen as many as 75 planes on final (I have the photo) at
> one time.  You'll probably see as many as 10,000 or more planes parked
> on the field including an Airbus 380 http://www.eaa.org/
>
> If I get my plane (N833R
> http://www.rogerhalstead.com/833R/833R_frame.htm ) back from the annual
> and my flight review out of the way I may go over either Saturday or
> Sunday.  If there's any place with more toys than Dayton this is it.
> <:-)) A few years back the Concord was there giving rides ...for $750
> each and it was full for every flight. On the 50th anniversary of D-Day
> we had the largest formation of WWII planes in formation since WWII.
>
> BTW The fly-in runs from Monday (Today) through next Monday.
>
> 73
>
> Roger(K8RI)
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dave Harmon
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:12 AM
>> To: n9lah@comcast.net; 'Robert West'; towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Hot Dip Galvanizing
>>
>> That might not be just a story.....
>> A local friend of mine had a tower re-galvanized and the rivets corroded.
>> In investigating this he discovered that the rivets are aluminum.
>> Not really believing him I checked my rivets with a magnet.....uhhh, 
>> guess
>> what?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dave Harmon
>> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>> Sperry, Ok.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of n9lah@comcast.net
>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:43 PM
>> To: Robert West
>> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Hot Dip Galvanizing
>>
>>
>>
>> What type of freestanding tower is it? I seem to remember a story about a
>> ham who sent an HBX tower to the galvanizer and when it hit the tank the
>> rivets all melted. Maybe just a good story, but something to think about.
>>
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> N9LAH
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robert West" <robert.west@just-micro.com>
>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 9:05:03 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Hot Dip Galvanizing
>>
>> I'm cleaning up an old 65' freestanding tower and would like to get the
>> thing galvanized.   I live in central Ohio and have looked up a few 
>> places
>> that advertise the service but haven't called any of them yet.  What 
>> price
>> range should I be looking at and how clean does this have to be before 
>> they
>> can process it?   Anyone have one to recommend in Ohio that they have 
>> used?
>> I was putting off calling until I had some sort of idea of what was a 
>> good
>> price and what was a rip-off.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob-
>>
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