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Re: [TowerTalk] U.S. Tower MDP-750 motor failure and related prolems

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] U.S. Tower MDP-750 motor failure and related prolems
From: Alan NV8A <nv8a@charter.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 23:06:46 -0500
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On 12/19/10 10:31 pm, Victor Morris wrote:
> Aloha everybody,
>
> I'm new to this group and I'm looking for some help. Earlier this year I 
> purchased a TMM-433 HD tower from U.S. Tower. I chose the option with an MDP 
> 750 motor, inside control box, and outdoor relay box.
>
> Almost from the beginning I've had trouble. It started with what appeared to 
> be an intermittent problem with a stuck outdoor relay. Sometimes the tower 
> would not raise when e I turned on the power. However if I went outside and 
> tapped the box, the tower went up fine. I thought this was just a nuisance, 
> but I may have been wrong.
>
> About 3 weeks ago a circuit breaker tripped one time when I tried to lower 
> the tower. I reset the breaker and the tower lowered properly.
>
> Then 10 days later I had the same problem except the breaker kept tripping. I 
> went outside and found out the motor was extremely hot, and there was a 
> strong odor of something burned. Inspection during daylight indicated the 
> starting capacitor had blown. Further investigation indicated that a limit 
> switch may have vibrated out of position possibly catching on the lowering 
> tower. The bracket holding the limit switch was just a bit loose, and I think 
> it could have moved. Inside the outdoor relay box a number of screws needed 
> tightening
>
> The tower had to travel 2500 miles by ship to reach Hawaii, and there 
> certainly were opportunuties for some items to loosen or shift position.
>
> The problem now is diagnosing and correcting the problem(s). I'm sorry to say 
> U.S. Tower customer service has been very minimal to date. It took repeated 
> calls and emails to their office to finally contact "Travis". He is the only 
> one empowered to make decisions on warranty issues. I was offered the option 
> of returning the motor at my expense to US Tower for service. While I plan on 
> doing that, I would like to find out what caused my problem in the first 
> place.
>
> Was it just a blown capacitor or "infant mortality" as some say? I do plan on 
> ordering new capacitors from a non U.S. Tower source.
>
> Did the outdoor relay box contribute to the issue when the tower failed to 
> rise after power was applied? One serious problem here is U.S. Tower provided 
> extremely poor overall installation instructions, and no circuit diagrams at 
> all for the outdoor relay box and the motor. Does anybody know how to get 
> such diagrams? The customer service people have provided no help to date, and 
> I'm unable to find any diagrams online.
>
> Could the displaced limit switch have caused or contributed to the problem? 
> Does anybody have a photo of an upper limit switch in the correct position? I 
> emailed photos to Travis of my upper limit switch, but received no response 
> so far.
>
> What would you recommend in my situation? I think replacing the capacitor 
> makes sense, but what other checks can I do?  I don't want to hold up 
> shipping the motor back to the factory for long, as my warranty expires in 
> late February , and I have already received an RMA #. OTOH I don't want to 
> reinstall the motor if I still have problems that contributed to the initial 
> motor failure.
>
> Overall I must say I'm disappointed to see an expensive tower have so many 
> problems this soon. FYI I'm in a CC&R area and this tower was the only one I 
> could get approved after a long battle. And it is the only one that just fits 
> in my relatively small 1/4 acre lot in a location well screened by trees.
>
> Any and all good ideas are welcomed!

How does the cost of simply buying a new capacitor -- or even a 
motor+capacitor -- compare with the cost of shipping the motor back?

73

Alan NV8A
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