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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Filters
From: "k3hx@juno.com" <k3hx@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:33:14 GMT
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Antenna Part Needed (john@kk9a.com)
   2. Re: Antenna Part Needed (n8de@thepoint.net)
   3. Re: Antenna Part Needed (Greg)
   4. Has anyone made use of aluminum pole to house wire? (John Hensley)
   5. Re: Has anyone made use of aluminum pole to house wire? (Jim Lux)
   6. Re: Has anyone made use of aluminum pole to house wire?
      (K8RI on TT)
   7. Yaesu rotors (Jim Spears)
   8. Re: Yaesu rotors (TexasRF@aol.com)
   9. Fwd: Has anyone made use of aluminum pole to house wire?
      (HansLG@aol.com)
  10. Filter ID, value help request (k3hx@juno.com)
  11. Re: Filter ID, value help request (W2RU - Bud Hippisley)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:25:38 -0400
From: <john@kk9a.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna Part Needed
To: <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
Cc: mryan001@tampabay.rr.com
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The DX Engineering brackets are for a 7/8 element.  I have some black 
insulated brackets from the old N0XX/7 DX Engineering company that attach a 
5/8" diameter element to a 2" boom which may work.

John KK9A


To: Jon Pearl - W4ABC <jonpearl@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna Part Needed
From: KR5DX <kr5dx@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:57:25 -0500
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DX Engineering will have what you need.
73

>
>
> On 8/9/2011 8:54 PM, Mike Ryan wrote:
>> I am in need of an element to boom mounting block for an older KLM 6 
>> meter
>> beam. The boom is 2" material, the element to boom part is plastic or
>> bakelite, etc (non-metalic) and is roughly 6" long. The element that 
>> rests
>> on this is 1/2" in diameter.  Anyone have anything they'd like to part
>> with/sell?  -Thanks.  - Mike 



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:59:46 -0400
From: n8de@thepoint.net
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna Part Needed
To: john@kk9a.com
Cc: TOWERTALK@contesting.com, mryan001@tampabay.rr.com
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The element brackets used on the 6m beam are identical to those on the  
KLM 10m yagi.

Had 6 of them here ... sold some .. not sure where the rest are  
located.   Probably in a box in the garage.

73
Don
N8DE



Quoting john@kk9a.com:

> The DX Engineering brackets are for a 7/8 element.  I have some black
> insulated brackets from the old N0XX/7 DX Engineering company that attach a
> 5/8" diameter element to a 2" boom which may work.
>
> John KK9A
>
>
> To: Jon Pearl - W4ABC <jonpearl@tampabay.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna Part Needed
> From: KR5DX <kr5dx@yahoo.com>
> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:57:25 -0500
> List-post: <towertalk@contesting.com">mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
>
> DX Engineering will have what you need.
> 73
>
>>
>>
>> On 8/9/2011 8:54 PM, Mike Ryan wrote:
>>> I am in need of an element to boom mounting block for an older KLM 6
>>> meter
>>> beam. The boom is 2" material, the element to boom part is plastic or
>>> bakelite, etc (non-metalic) and is roughly 6" long. The element that
>>> rests
>>> on this is 1/2" in diameter.  Anyone have anything they'd like to part
>>> with/sell?  -Thanks.  - Mike
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 20:56:26 -0700
From: Greg <ab7r@cablespeed.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna Part Needed
To: Mike Ryan <mryan001@tampabay.rr.com>
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
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I don't know if this is a coincidence Mike but check out this ad on QTH.

930205

*ANTVHF - KLM 6 meter boom/element brackets*

Have 10 of these element to boom brackets. For both 10 and 6 meter yagis.
Approx 7 in wide. For 5/8 in element I believe. Make offer.
73GregAB7R

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Mike Ryan <mryan001@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> I am in need of an element to boom mounting block for an older KLM 6 meter
> beam. The boom is 2" material, the element to boom part is plastic or
> bakelite, etc (non-metalic) and is roughly 6" long. The element that rests
> on this is 1/2" in diameter.  Anyone have anything they'd like to part
> with/sell?  -Thanks.  - Mike
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:37:51 +0000
From: John Hensley <w5jv@hotmail.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Has anyone made use of aluminum pole to house
        wire?
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
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We recently had our utilities run underground to resolve some problems.  Left 
is a coil of 5/16" diameter stranded aluminum power line, about 100' or more.  
Twoof the wires are black insulated, one is the ground return.
Is this stuff suitable for guying a tower or making a "last forever" wire 
antenna ofsome sort?  
Would enjoy hearing responses to this.
TIA,
John



                                          

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:40:25 -0700
From: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Has anyone made use of aluminum pole to house
        wire?
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Message-ID: <4E435D39.1000808@earthlink.net>
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On 8/10/11 11:37 AM, John Hensley wrote:
>
> We recently had our utilities run underground to resolve some problems.  Left 
> is a coil of 5/16" diameter stranded aluminum power line, about 100' or more. 
>  Twoof the wires are black insulated, one is the ground return.
> Is this stuff suitable for guying a tower or making a "last forever" wire 
> antenna ofsome sort?
> Would enjoy hearing responses to this.
> TIA,
> John

Not so great as a guy wire (very little strength compared to steel)

probably last forever as a wire antenna.

Aluminum has higher loss than copper, but big diameter makes up for a lot.


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 02:31:50 -0400
From: K8RI on TT <k8ri-on-towertalk@tm.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Has anyone made use of aluminum pole to house
        wire?
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Message-ID: <4E437756.7010604@tm.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 8/11/2011 12:40 AM, Jim Lux wrote:
> On 8/10/11 11:37 AM, John Hensley wrote:
>> We recently had our utilities run underground to resolve some problems.  
>> Left is a coil of 5/16" diameter stranded aluminum power line, about 100' or 
>> more.  Twoof the wires are black insulated, one is the ground return.
>> Is this stuff suitable for guying a tower or making a "last forever" wire 
>> antenna ofsome sort?
>> Would enjoy hearing responses to this.
>> TIA,
>> John
> Not so great as a guy wire (very little strength compared to steel)
>
> probably last forever as a wire antenna.
As long as the antennas is not very long.. Sounds like about #6 or #4 
lead which is nearly dead soft.  There's a reason they hang it from a 
messenger for overhead lines. We have 00 underground, but it's copper to 
the meter and Al from there to the panel. The Al fed with 00 Cu is 
really big.

OTOH there's no reason not to give it a try unless it goes over a power 
feed.


73

Roger (K8RI)
>
> Aluminum has higher loss than copper, but big diameter makes up for a lot.
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:25:12 -0400
From: "Jim Spears" <n1nk@cox.net>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Yaesu rotors
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
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Anyone know if a G1000 rotor and G2800 control box (or vice versa) are
compatible?  Not necessarily for long term use but for a bit of debugging.

 

Jim/N1NK



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:43:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Yaesu rotors
To: n1nk@cox.net, towertalk@contesting.com
Message-ID: <1cc36.1948792.3b753678@aol.com>
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The voltages are compatible. Be aware there are SDX and DXA versions and  
you might want to do some checking before just connecting them together.
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/11/2011 8:25:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
n1nk@cox.net writes:

Anyone  know if a G1000 rotor and G2800 control box (or vice versa)  are
compatible?  Not necessarily for long term use but for a bit of  debugging.



Jim/N1NK

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:53:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: HansLG@aol.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Has anyone made use of aluminum pole to
        house wire?
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I wouldn't trust it as guy wires. The wire is intended to conduct  current. 
If you open up a little of the cable and "mess around" with the wires  you 
find them very brittle. If they left some 5/16 galvanized steel, that's a  
different story.
 
To use it for antennas should be OK, a little heavy though. You will notice 
 if you stretch it too hard.
 
Hans - N2JFS
 
In a message dated 8/11/2011 12:01:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
w5jv@hotmail.com writes:
 
We recently had our utilities run underground to resolve some  problems.  
Left is a coil of 5/16" diameter stranded aluminum power line,  about 100' or 
more.  Twoof the wires are black insulated, one is the ground  return.
Is this stuff suitable for guying a tower or making a "last forever"  wire 
antenna ofsome sort?  
Would enjoy hearing responses to  this.
TIA,
John



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:10:30 GMT
From: "k3hx@juno.com" <k3hx@juno.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Filter ID, value help request
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Message-ID: <20110811.141030.27350.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>
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I've got a pair of crystal filters I'd like to know about.

What do they fit and what are they worth?

#1: Fox-Tango  YF-455H2.1   455 kHz      New in the box

#2: International Radio Inc. 88H400 AC
  
....FREQ 8830 kHz             Used, with coax, capacitors and resistor.

72,

Tim

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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:19:20 -0400
From: W2RU - Bud Hippisley <W2RU@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Filter ID, value help request
To: k3hx@juno.com
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
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My 88H400 came with a small PWB that plugged into the Kenwood TS-940, among 
others. 

In general, it was sold as a higher-performance (i.e., steeper skirts) 
replacement for the 500 Hz stock Kenwood high-IF plug-in filter.  

The value of yours probably depends heavily on whether it has the Kenwood 
adapter board with it.  

Bud, W2RU

The 88H400 has a small PC board.  I had a TS-940 many years ago and this may 
have been used in it.

72,

Tim

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