running this problem through a mast calculator program shows a
wind
survival of 93 mph with the following assumptions:
That also assumes no ice. Add even 1/4" to 1/2" of ice and the
wind
survival drops significantly. One doesn't need to be in KL7 to
deal
with high winds and ice simultaneously.
With multiple antennas on a mast it's not a matter of whether water
pipe will bend, it is how soon will it bend.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 9/15/2012 8:53 AM, TexasRF@aol.com wrote:
Hi All, running this problem through a mast calculator program
shows a wind
survival of 93 mph with the following assumptions:
1.9" OD .145" wall water pipe
yield strength of pipe 27ksi
pipe length 48"
antenna load 5 sq ft
Changing the antenna load to 2 sq ft increase wind survival to 143
mph.
73,
Gerald K5GW
In a message dated 9/15/2012 6:32:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
lknain@nc.rr.com writes:
Don't forget about the moment generated by the antenna. Wind
pressure of
100
mph is about 40 psf IIRC. That means an antenna at 4 feet that
has a wind
load of about 182 lbs would deform the pipe at the bottom of the
4 feet
(based on your 750 psf figure and ignoring the wind load on the
pipe
itself). At 40 psf that works out to about 4.5 sq ft of antenna.
If the
pipe were longer the antenna size would be less for the same
effect.
73, Larry W6NWS
-----Original Message-----
From: KM5VI
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:57 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] FW: Antenna spacing on mast
It would take a wind pressure of over 750 psf to bend a 4'
section of 2"
SCH
40 pipe to the point of permanent deformation. 750 psf is about
30 times
as
much pressure as would be generated by a 100 mph wind.
Strength-wise it
would be no problem for a vhf antenna at this length.
Interference-wise,
the VHF antenna is really too small to affect the HF antenna even
at close
wavelength. At VHF, 4 ft is substantially enough wavelength away
that the
HF antenna that it should not adversely affect the VHF
performance.
KM5VI
-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of
David
Thompson
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:21 PM
To: Michael Zeglen; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna spacing on mast
Please don't use Sch 40 water pipe even for a VHF antenna.
Exposing 4 or
more feet increases the chance of it bending in the wind. Water
pipe
strength is a flow inside not outside wind strength.
Dave K4JRB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Zeglen" <kl7ai@hotmail.com>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:42 PM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Antenna spacing on mast
Want to mount my 2m - 440 small beam antenna above my Pro57B.
How far
shouuld I space it or or does it really matter as long as there
is 3 - 4
feet spacing. I realize the more the better. What do you
suggest? What is
good rule to follow. Sched 40 pipe is NO problem my son is a
plumber!
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