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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Phillystran Top Guys
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:16:10 -0400
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My 100'Rohn 25 tower has a bottom guy set 3/16 EHS, middle guy set 3/16 EHS with 21-foot rigid fiberglass insulators on the tower end, and top guys 6600 lb Phillystran with 15' of EHS at the bottom. I used the larger Philly because I got it cheaply.


Anecdotally, before I changed out the top guys, my short 40M yagi at 107 feet was a disappointment. After, it worked (subjectively) much better.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 10/10/2013 8:44 PM, Keith Hanson wrote:
I am in the process of putting up a 100' stick of Rohn 45G.  Originally I planned on 
standard Rohn guying - 3/16" for the bottom two guys and 1/4" for the top - for 
Rev G.  Does anyone have experience in leaving steel for the bottom two guys and 
Phyllystran on the top?  How about running 30' of Phyllystran at the top end of each top 
guy - like an extended insulator?  I am trying to minimize interaction with the various 
wire antennas I'll hang from the tower and keep costs somewhat under control.  I'll have 
a 3el/40M option SteppIr for openers, but may change that at some point.  Obviously I am 
going to play with a bunch of wire -  dipoles,  inverted Ls, slopers, etc.
On a different note, another ham, WB9EDL, and I delivered some used 45G 
sections to the Rohn galvanizing facility today - they are called AZZ 
Galvanizing in Peoria.  The cost should run approximately $45 per galvanized 
45G section.  I recently took down 90' of 25G that had been up for 34 years.  
It was a used tower when I purchased if from a local ham and I hauled over to 
Rohn to be regalvanized when I bought it.  The tower was in great shape when I 
took it down a month ago,  just beginning to show some brown staining in 
places; the leg interiors were still shiny bright.  Re-galvanizing is an 
inexpensive way to rejuvenate old steel towers.  AZZ is also redoing my guy 
brackets, equalizer plates, stand-offs, etc, basically anything except threaded 
goods - bolts, nuts, turnbuckles, etc.
As long as I am posting - I recently helped put up 50' of 45G for another local 
ham, AB9M.  We had to spend quite a bit of time cleaning excess galvanizing 
from new tower sections - the inside of the leg joints.  We did a trial fit of 
all sections on the ground and labeled each mating end of the towers so that 
they went together the same way in the air.  We did 50' in a single after noon. 
 I did purchase the Yellowjacket tower tool and it would have been difficult to 
get the sections together without the leverage it affords in pulling tower 
sections together.  Also - we had one mismatched set of legs that would have 
been a real trial without the leg aligner part of the tool.  The tool really 
worked well for us.
Original question - any experience mixing steel and phillystran?
Thanks,
KeithAC9S                                       
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