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Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: RF Ground is a Myth

To: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: RF Ground is a Myth
From: Brian Carling <bcarling@cfl.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 12:59:16 -0500
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So far I am not convinced about using concrete. I'm going to do some resistance 
testing on the concrete in my yard.

Best regards - Brian Carling
AF4K Crystals Co.
117 Sterling Pine St.
Sanford, FL 32773

Tel: +USA 321-262-5471




> On Jan 20, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net> wrote:
> 
> If your house slab was installed correctly with a vapor barrier and/or foam 
> insulation, then it is insulated electrically from earth.
> Tower bases make good Ufers as do perimeter foundations, so my towers and 
> shop both had the rebar set as Ufers when constructed.
> I also noticed that a new service transformer I had installed is set on a 
> concrete vault that has a ground stub cast into the side.  The power company 
> used it, no ground rods.  I'd estimate its surface area in contact with earth 
> as more than 16 sq ft.  Compare that to less than 2 sq feet for a 10' 3/4" 
> ground rod.
> 
> Grant KZ1W
> 
> 
>> On 1/19/2015 6:52 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
>> The electrician I had (who does a LOT of grounding work here) come out to 
>> connect my tower ground to the service ground told me he would be glad to 
>> drive the extra rods extending out from the tower, but doing so would add no 
>> benefit at all. I have no idea if this is true or not. At some point, 
>> lacking personal knowledge, ya have to take someone's word for it. My tower 
>> megged out  at 4 ohms.
>> 
>> Mike NF4L
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Brian Carling <bcarling@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The advice varies about this considerably. This week is the first time I've 
>>> even heard of UF ER or conductive concrete!
>>> 
>>> The professional experts that I know recommend putting a 20 to 30 foot 
>>> ground rod into the ground at each corner of your house and connecting 
>>> heavy gauge copper conductors up to lightning rodsup on the roof.
>>> 
>>> It seems like if the only thing you need is a large area of this allegedly 
>>> conductive concrete stuck in the ground, why not ground everything to the 
>>> concrete slab your house sits on!!
>>> 
>>> Best regards - Brian Carling
>>> AF4K Crystals Co.
>>> 117 Sterling Pine St.
>>> Sanford, FL 32773
>>> 
>>> Tel: +USA 321-262-5471
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