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Re: [TowerTalk] New Proposed Texas Tower Regulation

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] New Proposed Texas Tower Regulation
From: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 06:18:05 -0500
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The following makes it sound as if FAA approval is required for all antennas. It is not. If your antenna is less than 200' And not in an airport area you only need worry about any existing zoning requirements.

Airport areas would be a bit more involved, but if you are more than (forget if it's 4.5 or 5 miles) from an airport and not on an airway through the mountains, you are generally safe.

I am on the runway center line, but not far enough out that I can go above 190 feet. At only 100 feet no permit was required.

BTW, the wind tower siting towers are under 200 feet, not 300 at least here in the flat lands of lower Michigan.73

73

Roger  (K8RI).



On 2/7/2015 11:38 PM, Mark Stennett wrote:
No tower is exempt from FAA siting requirements, regardless of height. You
wouldn't put a 10 foot tower at the base of a runway, would you? All
structures, permanent or temporary have to pass a number of FAA tests,
including slope. Until recentl, I worked in broadcast radio doing
engineering work for the last 30 years, 20 of those on a corporate level. We
acquired a radio station once that had a studio microwave tower that was 60
foot tall. Even though it was at least 10 feet shorter than the surrounding
tree line, it was required to bear an Antenna Structure Registration Number
and be top lit due to proximity to a local airport. It did not pass the
slope test.

This is a very sloppy bill. It would be far easier to leverage the FAA to
tighten up the temporary structure rules than to try to make these guys
tower experts. The tail is trying to wag the dog here.

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/gisTools/gisAction.jsp?action=showNoNoticeRequiredToolForm
[https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/gisTools/gisAction.jsp?action=showNoNoticeRequiredToolForm]

73 de na6m
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From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
To: L L bahr <pulsarxp@embarqmail.com>
Cc: "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 12:30:54 -0600
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] New Proposed Texas Tower Regulation


This comes directly from wind observing towers for wind farm siting. They
are all under 300' tell and do not subject to FAA obstruction marking
requirements. These are erected essentially overnight and several aerial
applicators have run into them because they have no obstruction lighting or
markings.

The curtiledge languages essentially exempts almost all of us.

Kim N5OP

"People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as the
music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith

On Feb 7, 2015, at 11:55, "L L bahr " <pulsarxp@embarqmail.com
[mailto:pulsarxp%40embarqmail.com]> wrote:
FYI
Lee, w0vt


http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/Text.aspx?LegSess=84R&Bill=HB946
[http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/Text.aspx?LegSess=84R&Bill=HB946]


Please read and pass this to all Amateur Radio Operators who have towers.
This “COULD” be detrimental to all of us. There are things I am not
certain of that I would like answers to or to clarify so that we could write
to our legislature to either kill this bill or more narrowly define it so
that it is not “ALL INCLUSIVE” in nature. It is my understanding that
the Crop Duster Association is behind this because some pilot either through
stupidity or an accident killed himself by flying into an obstruction. (I
have many times pulled off the road and watched these guys. Several times I
have witnessed them doing stupid reckless maneuvers) While I am an advocate
for safety and common sense, I do not think everyone should “PAY” for
the actions of a very small few. If a bill like this must exist, it should
define a specific distance around the “WORK/FLY ZONE” and not every
tower in the state. We should write our representatives to kill or modify
this bill.


SECTION 1.  Subchapter B, Chapter 21, Transportation Code



Section 21.071 (a) 1, 2, 3 clearly define “MOST” Amateur Radio towers.



Section 21.071 (b) 1, 2 “APPEAR” to exempt many Amateur Radio Towers
BUT does it? What is  the State’s legal definition of “curtilage”?


Section 21.071 (e) 2, “APPEARS” to exempt Amateur Radio Operators as
“a facility licensed by the Federal Communications Commission or any
structure with the primary purpose of supporting telecommunications
equipment” but then goes on to specifically define commercial radio
service. The “and” seems to separate the two?


Section 21.071 (f) 1, 2 “REQUIRES” notice and registration. You know
FEES and PERMITS will soon follow.


Section 21.071 (a), (b) appears to make it retroactive after September 1,
2016.




Are there any lawyers among us who could speak to this and guide us in
writing a proper request to our representatives regarding this?




What are your thoughts?







Regards,



Larry Lowry

Radio System Manager

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