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Re: [TowerTalk] Sad news N5IA SK in tower fall (Shawn Donley - N3AE)

To: N3AE <n3ae@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Sad news N5IA SK in tower fall (Shawn Donley - N3AE)
From: Matthew Kaufman <matthew@matthew.at>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:10:27 -0700
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OSHA requires 100% tie-in to structure. Can't meet that with a belay technique.

Of course if you are a fire department doing a rescue and not an antenna 
installer, different rules apply.

Matthew Kaufman

(Sent from my iPhone)

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 6:10 AM, N3AE <n3ae@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> It's with some trepidation that I respond to this thread, but there''s one 
> other climbing technique I have not seen mentioned in this forum. 
> 
> For modest height towers, say up to 75 feet, why not climb it like a 
> top-roped rock climb? Have two (redundancy) mountaineering grade locking 
> carabiners secured at the top of the tower with a suitable temporary rope 
> loop (like 3/16 Dacron) going to the ground through the carabiners. On the 
> day of the climb, use the temporary rope to pull some 9 to10mm static line 
> (like BlueWater Assaultline) through the carabiner to the ground. 
> 
> Attach your harness to the climbing rope and have a competent and properly 
> equipped belayer on the ground to take up the rope and protect you during the 
> climb. "Competent" in this context means someone you trust your life to and 
> vice versa...i.e. a fellow climber. 
> 
> Advantages: 
> 
> 1. Always on slight rope tension (provided by the belayer) so minimal fall 
> distance and shock loads. 
> 2. No energy expenditure (or fatigue related mistakes) hooking and unhooking 
> safety lanyards to the tower during the climb. 
> 3. Can concentrate on the climb with less distraction. 
> 
> Disadvantages: 
> 
> 1. Need to climb in a conventional safe manner once to get the carabiners 
> installed. 
> 2. Carabiners will need replaced periodically 
> 3. Need a competent and experienced belayer 
> 
> Some comments on rope: 
> 
> A typical "dynamic" climbing rope with zero slack (belayer has slight 
> tension) will elongate by about 10% with a 180 lb climber on it. Example: 60 
> ft tower. Say you are only10 ft up the tower. So ~ 110 ft of rope between you 
> and the belayer. If you fall, the rope will stretch about 10 ft (but like a 
> bungee) and you WOULD land on the ground but softly. Fall near the top: ~ 60 
> ft of rope between you and the belayer. So you'd bungee down about 6 ft. In 
> either case, there could be risk of injury if an arm or a leg was across a 
> tower brace prior to or during the fall. 
> 
> A "static line" typically used for mountain rescue or rappelling into caves, 
> has an elongation < 3% (for a 300 lb load), so in the above example, the 
> "fall distance) would be < 3 ft and <1.5 ft. 
> 
> A "dynamic" climbing rope will be better at reducing shock loads in a fall, 
> but I'd be concerned about possible arm or leg injury if either got across a 
> tower brace member prior to or during the fall. That's why I'm thinking a 
> "static" type rope and zero slack at all times (belayer responsibility). 
> 
> I've climbed towers and rock for many years. Not so much rock now that I'm 
> older. Always felt safer on a top-roped rock climb, even compared to climbing 
> towers with conventional "always attached" technique and gear. 
> 
> So how DO I climb towers? I use conventional methods and gear following the 
> "always attached" philosophy only because I rarely have an experienced rock 
> climber around to belay. Nevertheless, having been on both towers and rock, I 
> wonder which technique would be better (safety and efficiency)? 
> 
> OK. Ready for the incoming stones and rocks. 
> 
> N3AE 
> 
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