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Re: [TowerTalk] Birds and the Leaning Tower

To: garyk9gs@wi.rr.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Birds and the Leaning Tower
From: Edward McCann via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Edward McCann <edwmccann@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 19:54:26 -0700
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Have you tried pizza. (jk-leaning tower reference).

Is it illegal to discharge a firearm in your town?

Rock salt shotgun worked for me in prior QTH. Took two rounds twice, but turkey 
vultures wised up and moved on.
AG6CX

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> On Aug 2, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Gary K9GS <garyk9gs@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> I like this idea and was going to suggest it but be careful which 
> monofilament fishing line you choose.
> 
> Some are designed to disintegrate in sunlight; it protects fish and wildlife 
> from discarded fishing line.  I would see if there is listing for a local 
> wildlife or pest control company that specializes in birds.
> 
> 
>> On 8/2/2016 8:33 PM, Grant Saviers wrote:
>> 80# test monofilament fishing line strung above the boom as you suggest may 
>> work. Maybe a simple parallel strand 3" above the elements tied to a plastic 
>> standoff on the element end.  It might need intermediate supports for long 
>> or sagging elements.  It is strung overhead every few feet in outdoor 
>> restaurants.  The birds can't see it but soon learn not to go there.
>> 
>> Grant KZ1W
>> 
>>> On 8/2/2016 16:18 PM, StellarCAT wrote:
>>> my experience has been that rotating only works for a while- they get use 
>>> to it ... I've had literally hundreds of birds on antennas at one time ... 
>>> never had any damage...but here in my new location in upstate SC I have 3 
>>> VERY large turkey vultures in the back corner of our 11 acres ... near the 
>>> back tower - I'll probably need to get rid of them before finishing the 
>>> planned 2 towers with stacks... I absolutely DON'T want damage to those 
>>> antennas.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if one could run a dacron rope - well no - good idea but it 
>>> wouldn't fully cover everything - I was thinking of running a 1/8" dacron 
>>> rope taut between the ends of the boom about 3" above it - this would keep 
>>> them from at least landing on the boom I believe... but I'd rather have 
>>> them land there then on the elements.
>>> 
>>> I had read somewhere - was it on here? To hang a CD on a string - drill the 
>>> CD offset from the center so that it constantly twists - and the 
>>> reflections will ward them off ... not sure if that would work all the time 
>>> but might work during daylight hours. Seems birds tend to 'sit' on lines at 
>>> sunset so that probably wouldn't work then.
>>> 
>>> Maybe a wireless speaker? Play predator bird sounds through it? Cannon?
>>> 
>>> The problem is whatever you do needs to be constant - so anything that 
>>> involves yourself isn't going to work as they'll just be there when you're 
>>> not.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> K9RX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Tom_N2SR
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 12:15 PM
>>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Birds and the Leaning Tower
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Same here.   I normally see the turkey buzzards after a morning rain or 
>>> when there is dew, when they will sit at the top of the mast and at the 
>>> ends of the boom with their wing unfurled, probably trying to dry them off. 
>>>   One time I think I had 8 of them up there.   I wonder if it's good luck?
>>> Since the feedline to the 2 element 40 is under the boom, there are no 
>>> issues with claws damaging it.   When I installed the C31XR at 80 feet, and 
>>> the feedlines wrap around to the top side of the boom (because of the ring 
>>> rotator), I placed a piece of Dacron rope between the boom truss and the 
>>> boom (vertically) to keep larger birds from trying to land there and 
>>> damaging the coax.
>>> I've never had a problem with a large bird trying to land on any of the 
>>> elements.  Maybe they have tried in the past and have felt that it was 
>>> unstable.
>>> They also do not like to be "rotated."   After once or twice they typically 
>>> go somewhere else.
>>> Tom, N2SR
>>> 
>>>     From: "john@kk9a.com" <john@kk9a.com>
>>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 11:33 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Birds and the Leaning Tower
>>> 
>>> Lately a lot of turkey vultures enjoy sitting on my upper antennas.  They
>>> are fairly large and not very nice looking. I do not think that there is
>>> any way to keep birds off. If the element turned on the boom you can
>>> temporary fix it by tossing a rope around the higher end and pulling it
>>> level. For a more permanent solution you may have to use better clamps. If
>>> the aluminum physically bent it is either a soft grade or too small. An
>>> element truss can also help.
>>> 
>>> GL
>>> John
>>> 
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> Gary K9GS
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