Hi Rich,
Indeed the more I think about it the more I think the guys will be in the
way of the bucket. I don't know how wide the bucket is - any one know
dimensions on a typical bucket? 3 of the 4 antennas are right above a guy
point!
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Thorne
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 9:17 PM
To: Towertalk
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] questions on the use of a man-bucket and guy
tensioning 5/16" EHS
Gary,
The bucket/man lift makes installing antennas a piece of cake. I set
the boom of the antenna on the rail of the bucket/man lift. You may want
to tie it down with a rope for safety, I didn't.
Your up at the mounting location very quickly.
The only thing I can think of, which wasn't an issue for me, is if the
bucket is near guy wires, will the bucket fit? All my antennas were
mounted above the top section of the tower which didn't have any guys in
the way as I left the top section free of guys.
The crane company had to send a 2nd guy who brought the bucket via a
flat bed pickup truck. I had to pay for him so I put him to work. We
both went up in the bucket, 4 hands made installing the antenna real easy.
Can't answer the tension question, I got lucky I guess, never thought
about it. I used a come along and a cable grip and got it as tight as I
thought I should then let the turn buckle do the rest. I do remember
pulling it fairly tight as I wanted to leave plenty of room in the turn
buckle for future tightening due to stretching.
GL,
Rich - N5ZC
On 10/11/2016 7:17 PM, StellarCAT wrote:
Hello,
This is directed at those that have had direct experience with the use of
a crane and a man bucket.
My antenna/tower project, at least the major part of it (one of the two
towers) is finally getting close to being done. I’ve ordered the crane for
the end of next week ... so I can get a man bucket for an additional $150.
There are 6 large yagis to be installed – well 5 and a rotary dipole for
80/75 which is also BIG in that regard ... there’s currently 74’ of tower
up on the K0XG rotating base and 2 rings ... I’ve built another 60’ of
tower with the second ring on it ... that will go up first and the top
section of guys installed.
then I have 14’ of tower that will already have mounted on it (I hope) the
rotary dipole at the top and a 5 element 50’ boom 20 mounted just above
the leg of the tower (R55). That whole assembly will go up as one and thus
2 antennas will be finished once this is bolted in to place.
Then there are 4 yagis to go up along the height of the tower from 124’
down to 45’. I had planned on just having a guy on the tower stuff (no
choice there of course) ... and then have him climb down the tower as we
go from the top down with the 4 remaining antennas 124’, 90’, 75’, 45’.
This means I’ll have to lash up the antenna on the ground to the crane
hook and then of course the crane will raise it up to him where he can
hopefully bolt it in place (2 plates on the boom already in place for the
boom to tower mount).
But the guy that is doing the climbing is saying the man bucket will make
putting the antennas up easier. Having never used one I’m writing to get
the comments of those that have used one.
How is the antenna ‘held’ to the man bucket? And whatever that is does
that get in the way of mounting the antenna when at the tower. I.e. you
have the side rails of the man bucket that would be ‘hitting’ the tower –
will the antenna ‘move in” to position and still be SAFELY held until
bolted in place?
Is it really any faster?
I assume it could be considered safer as the guy would be in the man
bucket and not climbing the tower but obviously one expects whomever that
is to be careful and always be strapped in when climbing ...
thoughts please?
And on another note: the top guys are 5/16” mixed with 11200# philly (50%)
... how much tension do you need to pull out of the ‘free’ cable before
attaching it to the turnbuckle? I’m worried about not pulling enough and
having to redo the big grip ... on the bottom set of guys (the bottom 2
sets are 1/4”) I managed to do just that – I pulled too much and had to
redo the big grip. Of course on the 5/16” the worry is more that I won’t
pull enough and will run out of turnbuckle adjustment space. Put another
way: how fast does the tension go up as one adjusts the turnbuckle? If the
turnbuckle has 12” range – will that pull up even a relatively loose guy
to full tension of 1100# before running out of adjustment room?
Gary
K9RX
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
TowerTalk mailing list
TowerTalk@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
_______________________________________________
_______________________________________________
TowerTalk mailing list
TowerTalk@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
|