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Re: [TowerTalk] spark gaps & GDT's for lightning/static protection

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] spark gaps & GDT's for lightning/static protection
From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 14:35:37 -0700
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On 4/6/17 12:29 PM, Grant Saviers wrote:
I've seen pictures of all sorts of gaps,  two wires almost touching,
interlocking rings, adjacent spheres, Jacobs ladder like rods with
tapered spacing , etc.  One amateur radio product uses automotive spark
plugs (non resistor) and is sold as a pair on a copper plate for open
wire feeders.  However, a copper plumbing sweat fitting is soldered over
the gap so it is impossible to measure the gap.  My question is, if I
use a non resistor spark plug as a arc gap, is there any experience that
can be shared about what the gap distance should be set to?  I plan to
have a removable cover over the gap end for WX protection .

Are there better designs for a gap that are easy to fabricate and
weather/bug resistant?

breakdown of air is 70 kv/inch. That's in a uniform field at sea level, and a sparkplug or wires or whatever will breakdown at a lower level.

A typical auto gap of, say, 0.030" will break down at about 1.5-2kV.

No matter how small the gap, or how low the pressure, an air gap will not breakdown at less than 327 volts (the minimum sparking voltage) - you might get significant field emission or corona, but you won't get a spark.

Argon has a much lower minimum sparking voltage - 137V

vacuum gaps have entirely different behavior, and it's a bit of an arcane art to design a consistent breakdown voltage.

The commercial transient suppression gaps might have fairly high parasitic C - they're basically a couple electrodes, a spacer, and a fill gas like neon or argon- I'd spend the $3 and measure one at your frequency of interest to see what the RF properties are.


But maybe it's a few pF, and you don't care?



And a second question:  Gas discharge capsules are used in coax
lightning protection devices.  A large variety of gas discharge
components are stocked at Mouse, Digikey, etc in various voltages and
Kamps.  Is there any difference in the RF properties of the tube in the
in-line coax devices vs what I can buy a lot cheaper as a component?  eg
Littlefuse and TDK 800v @ 10Ka around $3ea.

http://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/electronics/datasheets/gas_discharge_tubes/littelfuse_gdt_cg_cg2_datasheet.pdf.pdf


Grant KZ1W
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