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Re: [TowerTalk] Grounding wire choices

To: "'Dick Green WC1M'" <wc1m73@gmail.com>, <Gary@ka1j.com>, <Towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Grounding wire choices
From: "Jim" <jimw7ry@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 20:54:41 -0500
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Industry standard is #2 AWG tinned copper.
Industry standard is exothermic weld (Cadweld) for all connections
underground.

73
Jim W7RY


-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dick
Green WC1M
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 11:44 AM
To: Gary@ka1j.com; Towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Grounding wire choices

I'm a little late to the party, but my recollection is that #2 solid is the
industry standard. Could be wrong about that, but worth checking.

Definitely go with solid. I used 1/0 stranded, which is overkill size-wise,
something of a bear to work with, and probably not a great choice in terms
of potential loss of continuity between the strands.

I strongly urge you to Cadweld the wire to the rods, rather than using
clamps. It's well worth the cost.

Definitely no need to run a ground wire from the remote antenna to the
shack. My understanding is that's true as long as the distance is 75-feet or
more. That said, even though the roof-mounted antenna is 100 feet away, I'd
still bond it to the single-point-ground, breaker box, etc.

73, Dick WC1M

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Smith <Gary@ka1j.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 12:55 AM
To: Towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Grounding wire choices

Thanks, From the comments I've received,
#4 solid is what I'll be using. That's
what I needed to know.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> I agree with Chick, my references say that #6 will survive a strike 
> without fusing but it may come close.  I use #6 solid but have a few 
> parallel paths so the current is spread out.  Have noticed that it 
> seems common practice to use a coarse braided ground line in the south 
> but don't know why.  Skin effect resistance might be lower but 
> inductive reactance dominates the impedance so that shouldn't help 
> much.-Mike-WA6ZTY
> 
>       From: Chick Allen via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
>  To: Gary@ka1j.com; towertalk@contesting.com
>  Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2018 5:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Grounding wire choices
> 
> Take a look at Motorola R56 guideline for grounding.  Great 
> publication.  If you can, include intermediate ground rods as R56 will 
> show.  In MHO, #6 is ok, but #4 would be better.  Stick with solid 
> copper wire for grounding. GL 73 de Chick, NW3Y
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Smith <Gary@ka1j.com>
> To: towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sun, Oct 7, 2018 1:15 am
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Grounding wire choices
> 
> I am in the process of pounding in
> grounding rods between the breaker box, the roof mounted antenna 
> ground wire and the coax entrance. I will be bonding all together.
> 
> The choice of wire I'm not sure about. #4 or # 6, solid or stranded. 
> I'll be using about 100' of it. It seems like the thicker, the better 
> but maybe #6 is fine?
> I have no idea about stranded or solid, seems like for this, solid 
> would have greater mass & be better? I have no idea.
> 
> #6 is a pick-up, #4 is an order.
> 
> The remote antenna is 370' away so I won't be running it to there.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
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