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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HDX 555 Motor Drive BEaring
From: Mac <libbysales@austin.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 10:44:52 -0500
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Steve is also very correct here,  its all about cable management and i do a very poor job of it to the point that i am about to rework my tower and base scheme and am exploring those loop holders things that metalwerks makes i think it is, using those mite well instill some higher level of cable management confidence and let my thinking roam to remote operation possibilities...

Yes i know mite  i fondly remember my first Mite teletype machine and when i use mite it is just a fond memory for the machine i carry.. mac/mc  w5mc

On 7/6/2019 3:18 PM, VE6WZ_Steve wrote:
Just to add a different perspective to the “never-ever run a crank-up tower without 
watching it” commentary.
Sorry to hear about Phil's cracked bearing.
Like all things mechanical, nothing is without risk.  Your wheel could fall off 
your car the next time you go for a drive, or your transmission might crap out. 
 We still drive our cars. Regular maintenance, and good engineering can 
minimize these problems.

These crank-up towers are machines that are designed to go up and down. Thats 
what they are built to do.  It still surprises me how many owners seem to leave 
their towers up all the time.  If not in use for an extended time, why not 
crank it down?  I have a wind-gauge relay device that actuates my tower to 
bring it down automatically when the wind exceeds 30 mph.

I have had the US tower HDX-589mdpl crank-up for 18 years. It goes up and down perhaps 
15-20 times a month. I do NOT stand there and watch it. With proper cable management there 
is no reason why the cables should get “snagged", tangled or stuck.  If your 
cables are getting stuck, you need to redesign the management.
When the tower was at my home QTH I raised and lowered the tower every time I used it. It was 
always kept cranked down.  I used it so much I had significant wear on the sheaves. (some 
have been replaced twice)  I talked to US tower directly about running the tower so much.  
The answer from the company was “these towers are made to go up and down. We have some 
installed at skeet shooting ranges were they go up-and-down repeatedly everyday”

Obviously things can break, but regular inspection and maintenance can mitigate some 
of that. BTW…if the limit switches fail, the tower will not come crashing down. 
 What will happen, is that the belt will slip and burn out. (had that happen once)

If running your crank-up tower is too “risky” for you to do when not standing 
beside it, I respect that.  The purpose of this response is to point out that my tower has 
probably gone up and down over 1,000 times over the 18 years I have owned it and I did not 
stand there and watch it every time.

73, de steve ve6wz


On Jul 6, 2019, at 11:25 AM, Mac <libbysales@austin.rr.com> wrote:

Rick i feel and have experienced the same i think as you have expressed.  
remote for me is just too risky, up or down..  i got so much crap passing thru 
several loops and then getting it on the ground in some sort of organized heap 
is its own problem as well..

That all said, im the guy who is always late getting it lowered and damn that 
typically brings some excitement with it and the static build up on my elements 
when that drains off..  But even then i will not be a remote guy, my best 
effort is i have made up a hand held pendant up / down controller with a 100' 
cable, so i can roam around and check from various positions and sight lines.

Also in my case the i really like seeing the limit switches and the traveling 
actuator moving toward or away from the actuator or limit switch [HDX-589 
model] so overall im trying to say for me and my situation and safety, ill 
still go out in the rain, gusty winds and take care of business.

And let me add,  at the outset i never gave much thought to the PULL DOWN feature, but 
the way and how my location is set up here, i truly have seen times when the "up 
lift" was such a force it took the mechanical effort to bring the tower down, 
usually of short duration, but it does occur in gusty winds.

Best 73:  mac/mc  w5mc

On 7/5/2019 9:55 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:
Someone once said, "communication is always
subobtimal" :-)

Just to clarify, I was trying to say that Phil did
the CORRECT thing (IE not using the remote) vs
the "what if" aspect in case he had been using a remote.
My bad.  I hope that everything is now clear.

Rick N6RK


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