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Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 219, Issue 22

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 219, Issue 22
From: Drew Vonada-Smith <drew@whisperingwoods.org>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:12:23 +0000
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Dave.

A vertical is omni in azimuth, while a dipole has some directivity.  This, the 
dipole has more gain in the favored direction, even in free space.  This is 
normal.

73,
Drew K3PA
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 11:26:00 -0400
From: Dave Sublette <k4to.dave@gmail.com>
To: kj6y--- via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Vertical question
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Good morning,

I recently changed my elevated 160 meter quarter wave vertical with 8 full 
sized radials to having only 1/8th wave length radials and only four of them.  
It is working great.  So I thought adding four more radials might improve 
things.

But before I went to all the trouble I decided to model it and see if there was 
a difference in performance of the 8 radial version compared to the 4 radial 
system.

I use a modelling program called Antenna Model.  The result of the comparison 
is this:

The 4 radial system showed a gain of 0.92 dBi with the main lobe at an 
elevation of 20 degrees.

The 8 radial system showed a gain of 0.93 dBi and an identical elevation 
pattern.

My question is:  Why is the gain figure so low?  A dipole exhibits 2.14 dBi 
gain. Why doesn't the vertical show gain?

And lastly, I think these results tell me it isn't worth the effort to add four 
more radials.

Your thoughts?

Thanks & 73,

Dave, K4TO

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