Carl - KM1H You know as well as I do....Denny Hadd never made a decent product in his life! It was junk! Thank god he is no longer around. Regards, Bob - K4NV -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/ampfaq.html Submissions: amps@contesting.com Administrative requests: amps-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-amps@contesting.com