Count me in the "doesn't necessarily read it thoroughly" group. Jay said "when the filaments come up", so that question was superfluous. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/ampfaq.html Submissions: amps@contesting.com Administrative requests: amps-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-amps@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm