Guys, At out pubs here in New Orleans our draught is served in glases which resemble the 807. Everyone I know who is radio inclined recognizes 807 as suds, not the tube. Rich, WA5NYG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/ampsfaq.html Submissions: amps@contesting.com Administrative requests: amps-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-amps@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm