I have on of these and I doubt there was ever a better one made. Its a military job. <http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=176738791> Phil -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/ampsfaq.html Submissions: amps@contesting.com Administrative requests: amps-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-amps@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm