RICH: i was not refering to a sideband rig. a forty watt carrier out of my Viking ranger does not show 160 watts pep at 100% modulation on either of my watt meters!?? hank -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/ampsfaq.html Submissions: amps@contesting.com Administrative requests: amps-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-amps@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm