[AMPS] FCC certification - how do they do it?

[Tom Tishken KD4WOV(laptop)]

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> From: owner-amps@contesting.com [mailto:owner-amps@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of measures
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:32 PM
> To: AMPS
> Subject: Re: [AMPS] FCC certification - how do they do it?
>
>
>
> >
> >FCC 97.315 clearly states that an amplifier may be modified by
> an amateur
> >radio operator (1 per year).
> >
> >FCC 97.317 stated the requirements for type certification. Any input
> >attenuating device which will allow the amplifier to develop full output
> >with less than 50 watts of drive when the attenuating device is
> removed is
> >not elegible for type certification. This eliminates the use of
> a 4-5 watt
> >CB transmitter from driving a converted commercial (and type accepted)
> >amplifier to full output.
>
> Why would a CBer buy a 4-5 w radio when 200w ham-type radios are readily
> available?
> >


they use those amplifier to "drive" the BIG amps, like Henry 10k or even
1200 watt ham or commercial amp. I believe that the 50 watt drive
requirement is a deterrent, but not a inhibiting problem for boot legers.
Remember if they will pay a couple thousand for an amp, they will pay $100
for an illegal palamar 4 watts in and 50 to 75 watts.

When I was doing 2 way radio repair, I made many people mad who had "export
only" radios, because I refused to work on radios that did not have a FCC id
plate on the radio (even hams who used them "legally" on ham radio). Holding
a commercial ticket I did not want to jeopardize my ticket for a few
bootleggers. Also I would not touch a "10 meter" amp.


> >No where in FCC Part 97 is anythong written than states it is illegal or
> >imapprioprate for a manufacturer to provide technical information
> >regarding the design, operation or modification to a third party.
> >
> Trying to limit technical information is an excercise in foolishness.  .
>
> >The FCC Part 97 rules are available at www.fcc.gov and at www.arrl.org
> >
> >Charley W1TE
> >>
> >>From: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
> >>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:44:59 -0400
> >>To: "Fred Fliss" <fredfffff@hotmail.com>, <amps@contesting.com>,
> >>   "Phil Clements" <philk5pc@tyler.net>
> >>Subject: Re: [AMPS] FCC certification - how do they do it?
> >>
> >>
> >>> > <FF enquiry: How is it legal, therefore, for a commercial
> ham amplifier
> >>> > manufacturer to offer, even to licensed hams, information
> that enables
> >>> > operation on 10 meters?  The ability to opearate on 10 meters is
> >>> > effectively disallowed by subpart 97.317 (1)>
> >>>
> >>> This information is furnished under seperate cover AFTER the amp is
> >>> purchased by the end user. If operation above 15 meters is
> not possible
> >>> during type acceptance testing, the amp passes this regulation.
> >>
> >>Technically even that is questionable, although if the manufacturer
> >>asks for a copy of a valid license then the FCC considers it OK.
> >>The reasoning is it isn't contrary to FCC rules for an amateur to
> >>modify his own gear.
> >>
> >>It is absolutely illegal to ship any amplifier that does not comply
> >>with the terms for type acceptance to any end-user in the USA.
> >>That includes amateurs, and it includes adding ten meters for them
> >>as a "service" or "favor".
> >>
> >>> It is perfectly legal for an amateur to modify his equipment after
> >>> purchasing it. The "after-market" instructions are therefore
> just as legal
> >>> as instructions on how to extend the frequency coverage of a
> >>transceiver.
> >>
> >>Technically they are not legal, but the FCC has always turned a
> >>blind eye as long as the manufacturer makes sure the end-user is
> >>an amateur. That was a big point of debate when the rules were
> >>created, and a verbal resolution.
> >>
> >>The FCC clearly drew the line, and the line was drawn at the point
> >>where manufactures do the mod for the end-user.
> >>
> >>
> >>73, Tom W8JI
> >>w8ji@contesting.com
> >>
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