[AMPS] TS-940 and SB-200
Barry Schieferstein
BarryS@core.com
Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:03:42 -0500
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Carl,
Having read all of the other comments hear on this list I have already =
bought the mod from Harbach. I did not want to get into that project =
until the main problem was solved. From all of the comments I am =
receiving it seems that the relay circuit in the amp is the place to =
start looking.
Thanks,
Barry KW8W
-----Original Message-----
From: carl seyersdahl <carlseye@tampabay.rr.com>
To: Mike <W4EF@dellroy.com>; Barry Schieferstein <BarryS@Core.Com>; =
amps@contesting.com <amps@contesting.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AMPS] TS-940 and SB-200
You also need to be aware of the high keying voltage from the sb200, =
It's about -120 volts dc. Can your exciter handle that?? if not, you'll =
need a "soft key" ckt. like the one from harbach electronics. I have no =
connection with them except that's where I buy some parts!!!!! that =
unit is about $ 18-20 and allows your exciter to see only about 1 volt =
or so at very low current and is completely safe for any modern =
exciter!!
carl / kz5cap.s. if pin 2 on your exciter is supposed to be ground =
it must be defective, since you can key with one wire on the shell of =
your connector!!!!
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mike=20
To: Barry Schieferstein ; amps@contesting.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AMPS] TS-940 and SB-200
Hi Barry,=20
Try connecting a shorting plug to the relay control input on the =
SB-200. If the amp
is working properly, you should hear the T/R relay close, and see an =
indication
of idling current on the plate current meter when you connect the =
shorting plug. If=20
nothing happens when you do this, then there is a problem in the =
amp. If the=20
T/R relay closes, and you see idling current, then you can apply =
drive from the=20
exciter to see if the amp works (make sure you remove the RF drive =
from the=20
exciter before you unkey the amp).=20
73 de Mike, W4EF................
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Barry Schieferstein=20
To: amps@contesting.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:24 PM
Subject: [AMPS] TS-940 and SB-200
Having read everything I can find here and elsewhere about hooking =
up a TS-940 to a SB-200 I have decided to ask fo help. The remote =
output of the 940 uses pin 6 for ALC, pin 4 for the amp relay, and pin 2 =
as the ground. With this hookup I get no closure or voltage between =
pins 2 and 4. I do get closure between 4 and the outside of the din =
connector. When hooked up to the SB-200 there does not seem to be any =
keying (ie. no plate current). There is HV on the amp and everything =
else works on the 940. The amp was supposedly in working order when =
taken off-line years ago. Any suggestions as to where to start looking?
Thanks,
Barry KW8W
barrys@core.com
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Carl,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Having read all of the other comments hear =
on this list I=20
have already bought the mod from Harbach. I did not want to get =
into that=20
project until the main problem was solved. From all of the =
comments I am=20
receiving it seems that the relay circuit in the amp is the place to =
start=20
looking.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Barry KW8W</FONT></DIV>
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</B>carl seyersdahl <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:carlseye@tampabay.rr.com">carlseye@tampabay.rr.com</A>>=
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</B>Mike <<A =
href=3D"mailto:W4EF@dellroy.com">W4EF@dellroy.com</A>>; Barry=20
Schieferstein <<A =
href=3D"mailto:BarryS@Core.Com">BarryS@Core.Com</A>>; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:amps@contesting.com">amps@contesting.com</A> <<A=20
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</B>Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:48 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [AMPS] =
TS-940=20
and SB-200<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You also need to be aware of the high =
keying=20
voltage from the sb200, It's about -120 volts dc. Can your exciter =
handle=20
that?? if not, you'll need a "soft key" ckt. like the one from harbach =
electronics. I have no connection with them except that's where I buy =
some=20
parts!!!!! that unit is about $ 18-20 and allows your exciter to =
see=20
only about 1 volt or so at very low current and is completely safe for =
any=20
modern exciter!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> carl / kz5cap.s. if pin =
2 on your=20
exciter is supposed to be ground it must be defective, since you can =
key with=20
one wire on the shell of your connector!!!!</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3DW4EF@dellroy.com =
href=3D"mailto:W4EF@dellroy.com">Mike</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3DBarryS@Core.Com=20
href=3D"mailto:BarryS@Core.Com">Barry Schieferstein</A> ; <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 27, =
2001 10:14=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AMPS] TS-940 =
and=20
SB-200</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Barry, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try connecting a shorting plug to =
the relay=20
control input on the SB-200. If the amp</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is working properly, you should =
hear the T/R=20
relay close, and see an indication</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of idling current on the plate =
current meter=20
when you connect the shorting plug. If </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nothing happens when you do this, =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>then there is a problem in the amp. If =
the=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T/R relay closes, and you see =
idling current,=20
then you can apply drive from the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>exciter to see if the amp works =
(make sure you=20
remove the RF drive from the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>exciter before you unkey the amp).=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>73 de Mike,=20
W4EF................</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Damps@contesting.com=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 27, =
2001 6:24=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [AMPS] TS-940 and=20
SB-200</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Having read everything I can find here and =
elsewhere=20
about hooking up a TS-940 to a SB-200 I have decided to ask fo =
help. =20
The remote output of the 940 uses pin 6 for ALC, pin 4 for the amp =
relay,=20
and pin 2 as the ground. With this hookup I get no closure =
or=20
voltage between pins 2 and 4. I do get closure between 4 and =
the=20
outside of the din connector. When hooked up to the SB-200 =
there=20
does not seem to be any keying (ie. no plate current). There =
is HV=20
on the amp and everything else works on the 940. The amp was =
supposedly in working order when taken off-line years ago. =
Any=20
suggestions as to where to start looking?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Barry KW8W</FONT></DIV>
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