[Amps] CB amps on e-Bay
Gary Smith
mandolinist@interlync.com
Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:53:40 -0500
Heh,
There's a picture of me on a chair at 2 years old with my feet 8" from the floor talking
into my dad's mic on his homebrew station (circa 52). But I had a CB walkie talkie
before I got my ham ticket.
I still wish they would have made CB on a 'non' propagation frequency like 2 meters.
For that matter, I wish C.W. McCall would have never started the outlaw CB/trucker
craze that sold millions of CB's but what's done is done.
I personally won't use 10 meters anymore because of the freebanders all over the
place, especially in the lower part of the band. About all I do is CW & those AM
signals are everywhere. So many from central america.
Just my opinion, YMMV.
Gary
KA1J
> The post from W3LAP also postulated that we all got our start in CB.
> Obviously, hams licensed prior to 1957 didn't, since CB didn't exist. I got
> my start 8 years after that, when CB was in full bloom, and have never used
> the band and never owned nor used any CB equipment. I did listen a couple
> of times. Didn't like what I heard.
>
> -WB2WIK/6
>
> "Each success only buys an admission ticket to a more difficult problem." --
> Henry Kissinger
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WYsixK [SMTP:wy6k@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:39 AM
> > To: amps@contesting.com
> > Subject: [Amps] CB amps on e-Bay
> >
> > You're wrong Jim,
> >
> > The CBer's with amps might not hurt anybody if they stayed in the CB
> > band. But they don't. You must not operate 10 meter CW or you would
> > know that. It is damned difficult to work DX on 10 CW nowadays because
> > of all the trashy CBers that are operating there.
> >
> > The propensity for many CBers to operate illegally, whether with regard
> > to power or frequency, is a threat to our operations and, ultimately a
> > threat to our licenses. The average person doesn't know there is any
> > difference between CB and Ham. So anything that CBers do that is
> > illegal rubs off on us too - and probably contributes to a call for
> > more restrictions on hams. All this high power CB stuff may cause the
> > demise of the CB service too - but that would be fine with me. I think
> > it should be replaced with something like a 900 Mhz band and returned
> > to its original intent - casual short range communication.
> >
> > Ham radio is put at real risk any time a CBer runs a ham radio power
> > amp and causes TVI or any other type of interference. The logical
> > pushback from those that experience the interference is to "take away
> > their amps". If our defense is that the CBers are using Ham amps
> > illegally, the response will still be "Well, we can't police each and
> > every CBer, but we can sure outlaw the amps they use, lower the power
> > limits for hams, and restrict outdoor antennas".
> >
> > CBers have already cost us the 10 meter band on commercial power amps
> > and it's not at all far fetched to worry that their misdeeds can cost
> > us our power amps. If the only way to curtail high power CB operations
> > is to make the sale of all RF power amps illegal, you can count on it
> > happening.
> >
> > I'd like to see all of us file complaints every time we see a CB amp on
> > ebay or wherever. The more that can be done to restrain illegal CB
> > oeration, the better it is for both services.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- Jim Thompson - W3LAP <w3lap@america.net> wrote:
> > > Jim Strohm
> > > Please just keep your windows buttoned up at 902 SAVANNA LN and leave
> > > well
> > > enough alone. Where did you get your start - CB band. YES. Those guys
> > > and girls
> > > on the cb band are not harming you in the least. The world would be a
> > > better
> > > world if people like yourself wasn't continually looking for fault.
> > > My-2-cents-worth.
> > > --
> > > Jim Thompson - w3lap
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jim Strohm wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Roger D. Johnson" <n1rj@pivot.net> says --
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've noticed a bunch of obvious CB amps for auction on
> > > > > >e-Bay. I've been going through the FCC regs trying to
> > > > > >find an easy way for a non-ham to tell the difference
> > > > > >between a legal "ham" amp and one of the illegal "CB"
> > > > > >types.
> > > > > > Since 28 April 1978, amps have to be "type accepted"
> > > > > >(the old term for certificated). My Drake L-7 just has
> > > > > >a sticker saying that it's type accepted. Do later amps
> > > > > >have an FCC ID number? Some of my gear has the FCC ID
> > > > > >number some don't. What section of the regs determines
> > > > > >which equipment is required to have the number? I can
> > > > > >find all kinds of info on applying for the number, what
> > > > > >tests the gear must pass, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've seen some post-1978 CB amps bearing an obviously bogus label
> > > > stating
> > > > > "Certified according to FCC regulations effective 28 April 1978"
> > > or
> > > > > something like that. Right now I don't have anything of that
> > > vintage in
> > > > > the shack that's still pristine enough to have the label affixed.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you slide a T81-series Mitrek through a bandsaw, you get a
> > > dandy 100+
> > > > > watt HF amp that'll drive to full output on a few hundred
> > > milliwatts.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you get a label printer, you can type "FCC Type Accepted" and
> > > print a
> > > > > type acceptance label (at your own risk -- use of such a label is
> > > a
> > > > > specific and flagrant violation). Just don't use the yellow
> > > label tape
> > > > > with the smiley faces, okay?
> > > > >
> > > > > And -- I saw those amps on ebay. Usually I'll file a complaint
> > > if the
> > > > item
> > > > > shows up on a search for CB linear, AND the description says it
> > > was used
> > > > on
> > > > > 11, or is described as suitable for same. But the last time I
> > > looked,
> > > > > there were so many chicken-choker amps on ebay that I just gave
> > > up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim N6OTQ
> > > > >
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