[Amps] NCL 2000?

Joe Subich, K4IK k4ik at subich.com
Wed Oct 1 03:36:08 EDT 2003


If one needed to replace the 2x8122, it might be worthwhile looking 
at the Svetlana 4CX400.  The tube is spec'd for 600 watts out in 
ICAS ... 1200 Watts for a pair ... with 2500 Volts on the plates. 
At slightly reduced plate voltages (2200 Volts), a pair are rated 
for 800 Watts CCS.   

73, 

   ... Joe, K4IK 
   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:amps-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Skram, Helge (MED)
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: Steve Katz; 've7avv at shaw.ca'; amps at contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [BULK] - [Amps] NCL 2000?
> 
> 
> My advice is:
> 
> Don't convert from 8122 to 4CX250b. I am aware that many get 1kw 
> out of these, but the signal is not linear.  The anode voltage 
> will be far beyond the max spec for the 4cx250b.  In the long run, 
> reduced reliability will easily offset the price difference.
> The 2x8122 is designed to run 1kw output, see RCA/Burle dataseets, 
> the 2x4cx250b is not.
> 
> 
> 73 de LA6MV
> Helge
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Katz [mailto:stevek at jmr.com]
> Sent: 29. september 2003 16:46
> To: 've7avv at shaw.ca'; amps at contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [BULK] - [Amps] NCL 2000?
> 
> 
> It's a very pretty amplifier that is, of course, also quite 
> old, c. 1966 or
> so.  As such, if it has its original filter capacitors they should be
> replaced, along with their equalizing resistors.  The 8122 
> replacement cost
> is scary, but many have converted to other tubes 
> successfully.  One recent
> conversion we did was to create a 6m monoband amp from an NCL2000 and
> because the tubes were weak, the final conversion involved 
> replacing them,
> and their sockets, with 4CX250Bs -- still puts out a kW on 50 
> MHz, with much
> more available (and cheaper!) tubes.  Small power supply mods 
> are required
> for that, but they're easy and inexpensive.  The original circuit has
> untuned input, swamped by a resistor bank.  One drawback to 
> most amps of
> this era, including the NCL2000, is no 160m coverage.  -WB2WIK/6
> 
> 
> > I'm looking for comments (pro and con) regarding the NCL 2000 amp. I
> > have an opportunity to buy one dirt cheap and aside from 
> the cost of the
> > 8122 tube, I'm wondering if there is anything else I should 
> be aware of
> > with this box?
> > 
> > 73 de Paul, VE7AVV
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