[Amps] RE: 4CX250B Screen Supplies
R.Measures
r at somis.org
Fri Jul 23 07:03:58 EDT 2004
On Jul 22, 2004, at 2:10 PM, Will Matney wrote:
> Rich,
> Yes, you are correct. I myself would build it the same as you. The
> main reason for showing these other ways was because that's how all
> the manufacturers used to do it and some still do, (diode strings)! I
> was looking over some schemes used by Alpha, QRO, and a few other
> manufacturers who are using tetrodes and seen they are still using
> zener strings. I agree that this does nothing for the IMD and all
> would like this cleaner (no splatter) but that's what the customer is
> getting.
Hello, Will -- As I see it, not all zener-strings are equal in
performance. A major problem with zeners is that the dissipation
ratings are for a case temperature of 25ºC - which is unrealistic
except outdoors in a blizzard. Thus, unless the engineer reads All the
specs and starts to actually think, the result is bound to stink.
end
> However, if someone wants to homebrew an amp with limited resources,
> they're most likely going to copy one of these circuits that's being
> used or was used in the past. Myself, I would use a shunt regulator
> with semiconductors, either transistors or FET's.
Since FETs are virtually immune to secondary breakdown, they are
superior to Bi-polars in applications such as this.
> If I recall, the tetrode board that Ian White builds uses a FET for
> the regulation which is as close to a tube as you can get using a
> semiconductor. Ian, correct me if I'm wrong on this. Actually, some
> amps screens are running off of unregulated supplies which cause
> problems. I myself was brought up around tubes which I count a
> blessing as most don't even teach the subject anymore. This is a shame
> because anything in broadcasting with any power uses vacuum tubes.
> Even industrial machinery uses diodes, ignitions, etc yet to this day.
> I was told that the military, even though they use tubes in their
> transmitters, do not tech tube theory! So, whats the new technician
> going to do when he is called upon to repair a final PA? What about
> the radar scopes and the CRT's all over the place?
CRT monitors are being replaced with TFT and plasma panel-type monitors.
> Anyhow, I guess the old saying still goes, "There is more than one way
> to skin a cat"........
>
> Will Matney
>
>
> Hello, Will -- The potentiometer method works well AB1 grid bias
> circuits because there is virtually zero grid current. However, since
> there can easily be over 100mA of screen current in AB1, the
> potentiometer method causes screen unregulation which =s IMD. One
> work-around is to use different value of zeners in the zener-string so
> that a finer adjustment of screen V results. For example, the 4cx250R
> requires c. 400V for the screen 12, seriesed 30V zeners would produce
> 360V. By putting 6, switch selected 10V zeners in series with the 12,
> 30V zeners, the screen-V could be set to 360, 370, 380, 390, 400, 410,
> and 420V.
> end
>
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Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734. www.somis.org
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