[Amps] 8877 on 6
John T. M. Lyles
jtml at lanl.gov
Mon May 24 13:11:45 EDT 2004
Gary
The Harris socket arrangement is definitely for lower frequency, and
would need some improvements to build a stable 8877 amp for 50 MHz.
There are papers on buiding a 6 meter amp using this tube:
W6SAI Eimac Amateur Service Newsletter AS-42
(reprint of Ham Radio Feb 1971 article)
probably same in Orr Radio Handbooks of the era
I helped design a broadcast transmitter for 88-108 Mhz using the
8877/3CX1500A7 in 1983, for 1.5 kW CW output 24/7. We started with
the Johnson socket as it is inexpensive. The trick is to lower the
socket under the deck, for the cathode input circuit, placing the
grid ring at about chassis level. provide a solid ring of contacts
around the grid connector, (could use that part in the Harris socket
for that). The grid needs to be grounded for VHF here, not with the
thin spiders of metal I see in the photos of the Harris socket you
posted. Use either a solid ring of copper or aluminum, or four wide
strips as a minimum, from the ring/plate you have to chassis. Since
you have to provide cooling through that, there obviously needs to be
some holes or slots, but be aware of the RF current paths.
The Harris socket you showed is similar to many 1 MHz designs, that
won't perform well at VHF due to the excessive hole sizes (leakage
through) and high inductance at VHF. Just use the porcelan part for
the cathode circuit and perhaps the grid ring, with the modifications
suggested.
The big chimney you showed should be fine. However the anode
connection looks marginal. You need to provide a more solid
connection, either a wide connection going around the tube,
preferable with a clamp to the anode or perhaps a strong fuse clamp
on the top cap of the tube going to a wide strap to a tank circuit.
73
John
K5PRO
>Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 21:04:13 -0400
>From: "Gary Mitchelson - N3JPU" <n3jpu at speakeasy.net>
>Subject: [Amps] 8877 Question
>To: <Amps at contesting.com>
>I have been looking for a good quality 1KW class amp for 6M but so far no
>real luck (not interested in using 3-500's on 6 again).
>
>I do have a couple of nice 8877's and a bunch of parts from some Harris
>RF-354 HF amps I scrapped but had some questions on suitability of some of
>the parts for 50Mhz.
>
>1) All the 6M 8877 amp designs I have seen use the SK2200 tube socket. What
>I have from the Harris amps are Johnson 122-247-202 sockets, they have a
>full 360 deg silver finger stock Grid Ring. Are there any issues with using
>this for 50Mhz?
>
>2) The chimneys from this are made by Harris. They are not like the straight
>wall chimneys I have seen on 8877's, these have a 5" opening in the base and
>flair down to around the tube (the RF-354 uses a single muffin fan for the
>cooling, although they spin it at 11,000RPM !) I plan on using a quiet
>squirrel cage type of blower. Any problems with using a chimney of this
>design?
>
>3) Lastly the Chimney has built in Plate connection made of silver finger
>stock. All the other designs I see use some sort of clamp around the plate.
>Any issues using this type of connection over the clamp?
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