[Amps] Fraudulent email to amps posters

Tue Aug 9 12:57:34 EDT 2005

Gary,

I use Opera for the browser as it has one of the best pop-up stoppers and best security they are, just as good as Firefox as I've ran it too. Opera has a built in e-mail client also. I don't use it though. I got used to using Opera and stayed with it. The only difference between it and Firefox is Firefox is free. What I use for e-mail is an app called Courier E-Mail by Rose City Software. It's designed for business use and where you can have miltiple protected mail boxes. It has the teachable spam filter and other security features also. I leave IE and OE on here as the OS needs some of their DLL's to work right. If it wasn't for that, I'd un-install them in a heartbeat. There was a law suit over that and M$ lost. Now they are supposed to have IE and OE where they can be taken out if you dont want them. IE supposed to be made fully compatible with Java now too as Sun won the law suit they had with M$. M$ tried to chage the coding of Java without Suns permission and was why Netscape had problems with some webpages. It was done for that reason by M$ so folks would want to buy IE.

http://www.rosecitysoftware.com/courier/

http://www.opera.com/

Best,

Will

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On 8/9/05 at 9:32 AM Gary Smith wrote:

>Larry Carman wrote:
>> Rich, Why did you chose the Apple over other computers/OS's?
>> Larry N5BIP
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: R. Measures [mailto:r at somis.org]
>> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 9:19 AM
>> To: Larry Carman
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] Fraudulent email to amps posters
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 8, 2005, at 5:47 AM, Larry Carman wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>She was using Win 98 with IE. Just like Will said, IE is usually the
>>>culprit by allowing executables to be installed an to run 
>>>automatically.
>> 
>> 
>> Interesting.   I run Apple's OS10.3.
>> 
>> 
>>>I'm using IE on this XP computer but have disabled the pertinent things
>>>that contribute to computer chaos. I also agree with Will that
>>>Ad-Aware is the best free anti-spyware available.
>>>I have another computer running Linux Red Hat Fedora core 3. I have 
>>>three
>>>browsers on it ( IE, Firefox and Netscape ) but use Firefox almost
>>>exclusively.
>> 
>> 
>> tnx, Larry
>> 
>>>Larry N5BIP
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: R. Measures [mailto:r at somis.org]
>>>Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:42 PM
>>>To: Larry Carman
>>>Subject: Re: [Amps] Fraudulent email to amps posters
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Aug 7, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Larry Carman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>A couple of years ago my daughter had downloaded an installed a piece
>>>>of
>>>>software which installed a driver on her local computer that caused 
>>>>the
>>>>web browser to form links based on certain keywords displayed in the
>>>>browser. Didn't matter which sites you were visiting. It actually
>>>>removed
>>>>any original links in the page and replaced them with links they had
>>>>associated with there keywords. The program she downloaded and
>>>>installed
>>>>said nothing about this link alteration but was supposed to have a
>>>>whole other function. Think about the implications of this if you were
>>>>to be using paypal or any other site that requested personal
>>>>information.
>>>>If you were to go to paypal.com you would get the correct page but the
>>>>links may have been swapped. If so and you click on 'Send Money' you
>>>>would
>>>>see the fake ( but identical in appearance ) page which may route your
>>>>money
>>>>to a totally different account. This is only an example and I know you
>>>>have
>>>>to specify bank routing numbers when you register with paypal but what
>>>>about
>>>>others financial institutions, etc...
>>>>
>>>>I haven't heard of a real life incident of such but wonder if anyone
>>>>else
>>>>has?
>>>
>>>Larry -- what operating system was she using?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Larry N5BIP
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: amps-bounces at contesting.com
>>>>[mailto:amps-bounces at contesting.com]On
>>>>Behalf Of Pete Smith
>>>>Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 9:31 AM
>>>>To: Bill Aycock; Dennis12Amplify at aol.com; amps at w4zt.com;
>>>>Amps at contesting.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [Amps] Fraudulent email to amps posters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You can also get a pretty good idea by looking at the full header.  
>>>>The
>>>>last few of these I have seen showed origin in Finland or Estonia.
>>>>Also,
>>>>PayPal says they will never address a message to you without using 
>>>>your
>>>>name in the message itself.
>>>>
>>>>73, Pete N4ZR
>>>>
>>>>At 12:41 AM 8/7/2005, Bill Aycock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>These false posts are very well done, and use the logo of ebay and
>>>>>PayPal.
>>>>>These two companies have set up a separate address you can forward
>>>>>to, to
>>>>>check.
>>>>>Forward any suspect post to:
>>>>>Spoof at ebay.com , or spoof @paypal.com
>>>>>They will answer you, and will use your data to track the fakers 
>>>>>down.
>>>>>Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>At 06:48 PM 8/6/2005 -0400, Dennis12Amplify at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In a message dated 8/6/05 5:01:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>
>>>>amps at w4zt.com
>>>>
>>>>>>writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyone  else receiving email with fraudulent attempts to gain access
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>your Ebay  and PayPal accounts being sent to the address you use to
>>>>>>post
>>>>>>to this  list?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I had, and wondered where  it had originated, but stopped it quickly
>>>>>>by
>>>>>>forwarding them all to spoof  @ebay.com or _spoof at aol.com_
>>>>>>(mailto:spoof at aol.com)
>>>>>>and let them  handle it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dennis  O.
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>>>>>>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps
>>>>>
>>>>>Bill Aycock - W4BSG
>>>>>Woodville, Alabama
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734.  www.somis.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734.  www.somis.org
>> 
>> 
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>Taking note of the many comments made about IE and OE, I am now using 
>Mozilla Thunderbird for email and Firefox for the web as of last evening.
>What a difference!! T-bird has a spam and junk filter that can be 
>"trained" and Firefox runs faster than IE 6.xxxx, using google as the 
>searcher.
>If you can see the speed difference with your eyes (and I can) that's 
>enough improvement for me.
>73 to all,
>Gary...wa6fgi
>
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