[Amps] [BULK] - Re: Shipping Damage

Fri Feb 25 21:54:01 EST 2005

<<If the package is determined to be packed properly by the people running 
the
UPS receiving desk, after you pay your insurance fee, they'd then be 
liable.>>

Sorry Will... it's still up to you to prove that they actually checked it.

Sincerely,

Dr. William J. Schmidt, II  K9HZ
Trustee of the North American QRO - Central Division Club - K9ZC

Email: bill at wjschmidt.com
WebPage: www.wjschmidt.com

"If computers get too powerful, we can organize them into a committee; that 
will do them in."  -- Bradley's Bromide

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Will Matney" <craxd1 at ezwv.com>
To: <Amps at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] [BULK] - Re: Shipping Damage

> William,
>
> Well the below covers it;
>
> " (including, but not limited to, improper,
> inadequate or unsafe packaging or wrapping that fails to meet UPS's
> published standards related thereto set forth in the UPS Tariff or
> elsewhere)"
>
> If the package is determined to be packed properly by the people running 
> the
> UPS receiving desk, after you pay your insurance fee, they'd then be 
> liable.
> Since these standards are what the receiving personell look for before
> taking it in to ship. I've had to repack some items so they would cover 
> it,
> and they've repacked some for me.
>
> About 6 months back, a friend sent in a heavy power supply for repair. The
> transformer which was really heavy (25 lb +), was mounted on top of a 
> sheet
> metal chassis pan of about 20 ga. mild steel. When it was originally made,
> that was the way it was shipped. During shipment to me, it was dropped, or
> had to be dropped. The transformer caved in the chassis on the one side,
> just smashing it flat. It was reported, UPS called me, and he was paid
> within a month. They inspected it before shipment at a UPS hub. I only go
> direct to UPS and not others like drop-off places or the so-called package
> and ship places. If they see it and okay the packaging, they'll back it 
> up.
> I've not had any problems about getting payment.
>
> Best,
>
> Will
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
> Date: 02/25/05 19:55:25
> To: garyschafer at comcast.net
> Cc: amps at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] [BULK] - Re: Shipping Damage
>
> You folks need to read the fine print (from
> http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/service/terms/service.html ):
>
> UPS will not be liable for or responsible for loss or damage to: articles 
> of
> unusual value (as defined in Item 460 of the UPS Tariff); Prepaid Letters;
> perishable commodities or commodities requiring protection from heat or 
> cold
> to the extent the loss or damage results from exposure to heat or cold or
> the perishable nature of the item; loss or damage due to war risks, 
> insects,
> moths, vermin, inherent vice (including, but not limited to, improper,
> inadequate or unsafe packaging or wrapping that fails to meet UPS's
> published standards related thereto set forth in the UPS Tariff or
> elsewhere), deterioration, dampness of atmosphere, extreme of temperature,
> ordinary wear and tear or that which occurred or arose prior to or after 
> the
> course of transportation by UPS; and special, incidental or consequential
> damages. Additionally, UPS will not be liable for any damages related to
> providing, or the failure to provide, C.O.D. service, including, but not
> limited to: failure to collect the C.O.D. amount; failure to collect the
> specified form of payment; collection of an instrument in the wrong 
> amount;
> failure or delay in delivering the collected instrument to the shipper; or
> collection of forged, insufficient funds or otherwise invalid instruments.
>
> I think that about covers it!
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dr. William J. Schmidt, II  K9HZ
> Trustee of the North American QRO - Central Division Club - K9ZC
>
> Email: bill at wjschmidt.com
> WebPage: www.wjschmidt.com
>
> "If computers get too powerful, we can organize them into a committee; 
> that
> will do them in."  -- Bradley's Bromide
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer at comcast.net>
> To: <Japerlick at aol.com>
> Cc: <amps at contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] [BULK] - Re: Shipping Damage
>
>
>>
>>
>> Japerlick at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> I asked UPS what their response would have been if the unit had been
>>> insured.
>>>  THey said "Same thing....we would not cover it because it was poorly
>>> packaged."   In reality, they are right...their job is to move the
>>> package not pack
>>> it.
>>
>> They are not right. If they accept your payment for "insurance" that is
>> an additional fee over the normal shipping liability they have. With
>> insurance they are guaranteeing it will arrive safely.
>> Poor packaging is their responsibility to determine before they accept
>> the package for shipment. What is the definition of "poor packaging"?
>>
>> If they accept the package after you pay for insurance there should be
>> no question as to how it was or wasn't packed when it comes time to pay
>> up. Their insurance is a big rip off!
>>
>> Vent mode off.
>>
>> 73
>> Gary  K4FMX
>>
>>
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