[Amps] Boycott New Chinese linear Amplifier

[Hsu]

Hi,
   I do not want to deny it is the ''copy" of AL811, especially in cabinnet and posion of the parts.  But not all.One of  builders is my friend,so I know something about it.The amplifier what they built NOT a simply copy AL811, they are doing many creationary work for it.Although they are  all  beginner, until they build the amp, they had never build any tube amps. You can see the amp's build quality is better than AL811.Actually, ANY 811A's  linear amplifier what our makeing now ONLY have few diffrence. Can you say we or Ameritron copy each other?  Chinese began to make the vacuum tubes in 1930s,in  1950s,we can make almost all tubes in the world.
  From 1960s, we began to design vacuum tube,there are many unique tubes was made in China, and you can not find simlar product  in any other countrys.Now, most Chinese tube factory was closed, include Beijing vacuum factory( it maks the best miniture tube in China  from 1950s, the quality is much better than well know Shuguang factory what makes 811A and 572B) .BTW, 572B are OEM for foreign buyer,NOT any Chinese equip use it until 1995.the 811A  was copyed from Russian G-811 in 1950s,NOT direct copy from the West.we product it for about  50 years.I know the America is a most advanced country ,but  China was not located in Sahara! The Vainglory americans!
  Finally,I must to tell you,This amp only make few amount  for the builder's friend,No any  plan  to sell it to the West, you or Americtron needn't  jitter or "boycott" .  To tell the truth, this amp  is not a REAL a bussiness project, the builders are only tube amp amateur, not for make money.But I must to say if Chinese know how much gain in tube amps,maybe all  linear tube amp factory have to closed   very soon  like  all  America amateur radio transceiver manufactor have to close their factory in 1970s  due to  Japanese competitor.The Vainglory americans, as a "semi" super power, Chinese's product Not all copy or "Stolen" from the West.we design indepedent nucler weapon in 1960s, nucler submarine in 1970s, Make tube amps is a too little Case!
   Pesonally, I have no  hostility to  American, I have many good friends in USA.I 'm interested in  tube amp like all person in this reflector.But I think some are people too hostility.
     73! Hsu
 
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji at w8ji.com>
To: "Fern Rivard" <crc at cyberlink.bc.ca>; "Hsu" <Jbenson at sohu.com>; "kenw2dtc" <kenw2dtc at comcast.net>
Cc: <amps at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Boycott New Chinese linear Amplifier


>>    I don't know what that "chinese" linear sells for but 
>> because it is obviously a "copy" of one sold by Ameritron, 
>> we should simply boycott that unit in America and NOT buy 
>> it!   Fern
> 
> The real point I was trying to make is there could be many 
> improvements made in that basic design if the Chinese 
> actually put some creative engineering into the product. A 
> better product at the same cost or even less cost would be 
> widely accepted. The real problem is when someone knows so 
> little they just copy something exactly  they will make a 
> poorer product. Blind copying just rips everyone off, much 
> like a thief does.
> 
> For example the Chinese could be making 811 tubes or 572 
> tubes that are actually better than the old USA tubes. 
> Instead, since they do not fully understand the tubes and 
> what people need, they only make worse copies. 572's and 
> 811's are one of the tubes that for very little change in 
> cost could be made much better. The Chinese will never make 
> that step unless they learn what the problems really are and 
> how to improve the problems.
> 
> I don't object at all to their making products as long as 
> they just don't copy weak points and sell them. What that 
> will do is turn back the reliability of everything and stop 
> new innovation all over the world. They need to change that 
> "thoughtless copy" mindset.
> 
> 73 Tom 
> 
> 
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